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Why dont we all club together and buy the site from Peter?

Well, he probably doesn't want to sell it anyway. And who would run it? Where would it be hosted? Who would pay for the hosting costs? Who would take care of the administrative side? Who'd fix the problems?

I run a bunch of sites and do all that stuff regularly, but I don't believe in democracy in these things. You need to have one person or company in charge. If everyone pitched in, everyone would expect having some say in how the site is being run. A nice idea, but not doable.

Ice

The thought occurred to me quite some time ago, for me it would be the best way out the current situation. I am ready to sell JT + jovitalk.com domain (and permanently redirect all traffic from current address to jovitalk.com), but would keep drycounty.com (the site). The idea is probably doable financially, but if for example 10 or 50 people buy JT, there will be the issue of control. Someone would have to legally own the domain name (and software license) and of course someone would have full access to the server and basically total control of JT. I'm not sure if such democracy would work and that's why I never really pursued the idea. The board is global, if it were local the solution would be to create a club (as a legal entity) and go on from there.

How much do domains cost anyhow? Are we talking £5 or £500? I mean if someone could suggest a rough figure on the table it'd be easier to figure out how many people we'd need to buy the domain, etc.

Also, how much does it cost to host a website?

I'm all for putting money into Jovitalk to keep it running, but I'd like to know what figures we're dealing with.

Well i guess the way people bicker about the tiniest subject on here it would never work. Like Matrix asked how much does it cost to run. Then maybe someone with that sort of money might go for it. I wouldn't have the technical knowledge to run such a site.

It depends on the traffic it recieves. I could host a site like this (max. 2 GB files) if the monthly traffic is under 50GB for about 210€/year. Probably even cheaper if I shopped around a bit. But the issue would be with traffic, I don't know the traffic amounts of this site and that's the expensive part.

The domain cost is about 20€ if you register it, but I think Peter wants more for Jovitalk.com.

Plus, we don't know how much Peter would want for the actual site.

Ice

In my work forum/site everything is in my name but I share joint responsibility of the site running with a colleague. This is a matter of trust , as either one of us could block the other out and shut the forum etc.. However we are actually legally contracted to not do this....

The mods we have different levels of forum controls. It costs about £360 a year to run but I assume doesnt have as much traffic as JT.

If JT grouped together and brought it from Peter could we elect two main people to run it... Peter would you be willing to let us know the cost ?

I think it is a shame this is happening but understand Peter if you have had enough you have had enough...Would you be willing carry on as you are if we paid to have the site add free and cover costs ? This way you would remain in control but have your overheads covered. Again we would need to know roughly what cost this would be.

Dawn

Those interested in buying JT please contact me at peter5@peterweb.com. We're talking about four-fugure amounts here (in EUR), but not five-figure.

Direct costs (hosting, domain name, forum softeare license) are not the issue, current ads can cover those (with help from DC the site, JT alone wouln't cover them). The board causes most of server load and problems that come with it (and attracts most bot attacks), and all this also requires my time. And time is something I have very little of (plus I value it more after the health scare I had). And of course, time is money. If I counted my time in the equation, all these sites would obviously be very very unprofitable.

As for traffic, it's hard to separate JT from DC as they currently share the domain name. drycounty.com needs about 400-500GB per month (some stats show even 1500+TB, but those can't possibly be real), but fan-submitted mp3s account for majority of the traffic. My guess would be JT uses about 50-100GB per month (we're talking about 1.5-3M database-intensive pageviews here...).

I honestly think the setlists had more to do with it than the ads. Seems a majority of people are blocking them anyway.

I don't come here on regular basis because this forum doesn't live for me as much as it does for the 'core-group'.

When I am at home I spent my time gaming or with music/video and when I am active on this board I am mostly at the company I am doing my internship.

The adds get blocked by my browser so a payed subscription would be useless to get.

So for me it's not the adds that reduced the time I am online on this board. It's just my personal situation that matters.

I salute you,
TS