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Old 03-01-2018, 12:40 AM
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But is it really? The only song that's really about 9/11 is Undivided and MAYBE Everyday, but with the rest I just don't hear it.

What's Postcards about; is it really about 9/11 / Ground Zero? I always thought it was just a "I'm away from home and miss you" type of song?
I think she meant Another Reason...

I never thought of Bounce as a total 9/11 album. Had the event not happened I think we would have gotten a pretty mediocre album. If I recall Bounce was half written before and half after but is still considered one of the 9/11 songs along with Everyday, Another Reason to Believe, Standing and Undivided.
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Old 03-02-2018, 08:02 PM
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Bounce is the result of a band releasing stuff they think people want to hear as opposed to releasing stuff they feel like writing. Before its release Jon mentioned several times how the album would have no ballads at all and the album would rock a lot harder than Crush. Songs like Standing and Another Reason to Believe were supposed to be on the album but the direction of the album changed a few months after the band had been writing and recording.

Personally, I've had a feeling the record company wasn't too happy with the way the album turned out and felt it wasn't commercial enough. And I think that, after the shock of the attacks had waned, the band felt no longer comfortable with the 9/11 songs either. Needing to deliver an album for the tour that had been booked, extra writing sessions were booked. So, just like with Crush, a pop writer was brought in. But while Max Martin "Had only been in the room" when It's My Life was written, Jon did several actual writing sessions with Andreas Carlsson and then brought the songs home to make them sound like Bon Jovi songs with the help of Richie and Desmond Child.

But the songs just aren't there, they're not really Bon Jovi songs and I've a feeling it's because it was Carlsson who came up with the songs as opposed to Jon coming up with songs and then finish them with an outside writer. I'm sure Jon had ideas, but he just couldn't keep up with the latest musical trends. The songs written with Billy Falcon feel a lot more natural. I never found the original source but I remember how the story leaked on All About Lovin' You being originally written for Leann Rhimes. She, or her her case her team of managers, rejected it and Carlsson told Jon he was free to use it. And just like with It's My Life, Jon and Richie added their writing credits to the song, and whoop-di-doo, another classic Jon and Richie song was born. It's also why the rumor of them having ghost writers is not some made up fable from the past as it's now been clear the writing credits for Bon Jovi songs really aren't what they seem to be.

It's funny how I remember **** all from the times Bounce was released, but for some reason I can still remember the first time I played Bounce. I'd had a boring day at school, caught the subway to the bus station, went into the record store right next to it just before I had to catch my bus and played it on my discman on the way home. I felt so let down by this record. Crush hadn't been great, but this was just really poor. I was hoping for the album to pick up, but it never really did. Hearing Undivided for the first time was great, but where was the rest of the good stuff? The b-sides rocked harder and it just wasn't a very good record. It was all over the place, and the nu metal influences were awful. The genre had already started to fade and here was Bon Jovi trying to capitalize on it by trying to add Linkin' Park and Creed sounds to its album, both bands I couldn't stand. As for the rest, it was really lacklustre and to me the first sign how the band was too busy copying and stealing as opposed to creating something themselves. They'd never shied away of incorporating nowadays pop music and had always known just how far to go, but this was just too much. Sure, Bounce was a great song, but it really was just another clone of It's My Life. It's as if a team of marketing people had written a list of what they thought people liked about Bon Jovi and then tried to come up with songs that checked the boxes on that list. Talkbox? Check. Song like It's My Life? Check. Ballad with a guitar intro? Check. Storytelling song about an average guy? Check. It's all there, and yet it never really works.

I've never understood the love for Misunderstood and The Distance. The first is a really mediocre pop song with an annoying chorus and the second is a really poor nu metal pop song. The wall of guitars on the album don't help much either, I think we've got Richie to thank for that as the guitars on Aftermath sound the same. As to the question; what's the worst song on Bounce? I'm not sure. I think it's got 1 really good song and that's Undivided. Everything else is either a rehashed Bon Jovi song, a rehashed classic rock song or a rehashed pop song. And sometimes, it's all of them. There's nothing wrong with diversity, I don't listen to just rock myself, but if you're going to be this diverse you better make sure the songs are there. I'd go with You Had me From Hello, which really sounds like a Backstreet Boys kind of ballad. Replace it with We Can Dance, easily one of the better songs coming from the Bounce sessions and you've got an album that's better. But only a little bit.

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Bounce is inaudible because the track list is poisoned with ballads and tasteless pop songs.

The b-sides however are not bad. My reproduction of Bounce is this:

1 Undivided
2 Everyday
3 Another Reason To Believe
4 Misunderstood
5 Alive
6 The Distance
7 Hook Me Up
8 Satellite (This song is from the Crush sessions, but for some reason I love to place it after Hook Me Up.)
9 Breathe
10 No Regrets
11 Standing
12 Bounce


If these b-sides had made the album, maybe would sound with a better finish, who knows.
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I worked for universal at the time and got the album a week early as usual.
I remember writing a review on Amazon that said something like... The irony is, the albums called Bounce but on first few listens the album should be called “dull thud”
I was well chuffed at my review.

The album is all over the place.
Love Undivided and was hoping the album would be a further 11 tracks of that heaviness and tempo. I like Every day even though it’s Jovi by numbers and the distance but then like most Jovi albums since Crush they take a dramatic dip in quality and the rest of the album is a huge disappointment with the exception of the title track and Hook me up.

The rest are really dull and poor. This album m was a confused Bon jovi.
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I agree with the above few posts... It was just rushed to capitalize on the minor success of Crush (or really just IML)... It was underdeveloped and was reworked after 911... I'm not even crazy about the bonus tracks... I don't like the production or the song writing.. I get why Jon left it off the GHs... it's the 7800 of the 00s

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What is wrong with you all, discussing worst songs and on Jon's birthday as well. For shame...
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this album for me is pretty good,I listen that album more than Crush,only bad thing is too much of ballads and slow songs.Undivided,everyday,hook me up,bounce,distance(live with guitar outro) are great songs,add couple of b sides or bonus songs(alive,another reason to believe,standing,lucky,breath,no regrets) and you have that great rock album that everyone here so badly wants.
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Bounce could have been a much better album if they took out some of the ballads and if they gave themselves more time to write.
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Well I agree with the flying dutchman that the main reason why Bounce falls short is that (for the first time) it was too clear that the band were totally trying to produce songs that would fit certain trends and hypothetical expectations of the audience.

Even Crush's overall naivette and lightheartedness had some touch of "artistic honesty", meaning that it felt that the songs were believed in.

In Bounce the forced songwriting is too apparent. Nevertheless it is enjoyable at times. And that 's why I like Postcards from the wasteland, I find it less forced, more real, flowing, cool.
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And that 's why I like Postcards from the wasteland, I find it less forced, more real, flowing, cool.

Exactly the reason I loved it from first listen and still do all these years later.



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