Jon Bon Jovi and the songs he cleverly stole from others.

Interesting.... I never knew DC was initially just a 4 minute song.

But taking into consideration everything you said, if Jon came into the studio with a completed song... And Richie said, lets make it EPIC and I'll add three minutes of extra guitar. If I was Jon, I'd say cool ideal Richie but I'm still getting complete F-ing song writing credit for this song.

Now that I think about it, DC is a rip-off of November Rain

I didn't know it was initially a 4 minute song either, I'd love to hear a source for that fact.

I think they came out too close to each other for one to rip off the other. That and I don't hear the similarities apart from both being long songs with big guitar solos.

I'll have a look. I'm sure I read it in an interview with Richie from 1998-ish when he put out Undiscovered Soul and he said something like Jon came back with lyrics and the melody but it was just a normal 3-4 minute song. He wanted to make it an Epic so he pushed it and basically came up with the second half of the song.

Ok. There have many songs which are "inspired" by others. Thats ok with me. If this is something more then band/record label who have rights to original song should get many for using their music. Ripping off is not good if original artist don't know about it (and say you can do this) or don't get money from them)work.

IF M.Martin gave BJ 90% of IML or D.Child gave BJ demo of Livin it's ok with me. BOn Jovi gave many song for others artists and thats also ok (Nothing, Cadilac Man, These Open Arms, One To Say Goodbye).Seb asked to show other band who have so many influences song as BJ... so for exampleLed Zeppelin

or Metallica (they ripped many more)

Billions of people think that Metallica made riff for "Ender Sandman but it's just ripped from Excel.

Some original versions of BIGGEST worlds hits. Listen before reading who ripped thats songs.


Many of biggest hits have "influences" from others artists fFor Example:
1 - Hotel California / 2 - My Sweet Lord / 3 - Ghostbuste / 4 - Surfin USA / 5 - Anybody Seen My Baby

Billy Squier - The Stroke

No need to mention the BJ song

Richie could have written 8 minutes of guitar work, he'd still be arranging it based on the song structure, chords and melodies Jon wrote. Credits for songwritting and arrangements are 2 different things and are paid for sepparately....

Edit: to add that i agree that the solos make the song and it wouldn't be a standout track without them, but as far as songwritting credit goes, it doesn't really matter.

Yeah, I know that. It's just that, it's not just a solo that is placed somewhere in the song. It completely changes the song structure. Then there's the intermezzo between the two solos and the riff just has Sambora written all over it. Maybe that's not enough to get song writing credits. Then again, I bet both Jon and Richie have done less for certain songs and still got their names on them.

I couldn't find the actual interview - but have a look at this:
Around 4:15, Richie pretty much says the same thing.

Sorry, can't figure that one out. Which song is it? Sounds more like Def Leppard based their whole catalogue on ripping off this song.

Bon Jovi's 'Thank You For Loving Me' is pretty much a direct rip of 'Garden Of Eden' by Guns N' Roses.

I'd guess King of the Mountain.