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Old 10-17-2014, 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Rdkopper View Post
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Ever heard of Paul McCartney?

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Let's not get carried away. He doesn't do 4 hour gigs. He has but not regularly.
No, he regularly does 3,5 hours. And he has done gigs over 4 hours, I know, I was at one when he played way over 4 hours.

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He's a raspy singer so that's why he could still sing his songs. I've heard Jon do wonders to Bruce songs but did you ever hear Bruce sing a Jovi song? The few that's he tried were a complete mess. He can't even come close to hitting those notes. Bruce will play it off like he don't know the song but in reality, he's just using that as an excuse.
Jon's a raspy singer as well. And I've heard Bruce sing Bon Jovi songs, with Jon and Bruce sounded better than Jon. As to hitting the notes, like I said, Bruce can sing anything he's ever recorded as they were recorded, Jon can't. And Jon can't even sing the notes Bruce hits these days. Plus, Bruce is a good 10 years older than Jon.

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No Way! That song don't even compare to a Prayer, Always, Bad Name, etc on a vocal level. Not even close. If so, which parts?
Yes way! You're not a singer, I gather. It's not only about the high notes, it's about the spaces to breathe, how long you stay in a certain register, how long the notes are etc. Saturday's chorus is a bitch to sing, much harder than Prayer. And Bad Name is a breeze to sing, it's one of the easiest songs of the whole 80's catalog. Always has a pretty hard chorus, but Sat Nite is up there as well.

And it's got the high notes as well. Sat Nite's chorus goes
G# G# A G# F# E E - A A G# F# E E B F# G# F# E.
(Hey, man, I'm alive, I'm taking each day and night at a time)

Always is
E - B A G# G# F# E E b c# G# F#
(I will love you ba-by, al-ways)

and the "high part"
G# G# G# G# G# A G# B
(I'll be there till the stars don't shine)

G# G# A G# G# G# G# A G# B
(till the heavens burst and the words don't rhyme)

So, they're in the same key and they have same notes. The difference is that Always has more breathing space and it goes lower during the choruses as well, which relaxes the voice. Sat Nite goes into the high register and stays there for the whole chorus, with more high notes (B's in this case), which Jon doesn't even try to sing now.

So, yes, Sat Nite is one of the hardest songs to sing. At least if you sing it like it was recorded and performed in the 90's.

And smoking kills your voice. Fast. Another thing that damages your voice is drinking "hard" alcohol (over 20%), which dissolves the lining in your throat. If you sing after that, you cause damage to your vocal chords. Every time.

Also, many 40 or 50 year-olds can sing just as high as they could in their 20's. There are many in the music business as well. The probable reason of why Jon can't do it is the fact that he's not taking care of his voice, and that he didn't take care of it back in the day. If he took as good care of his voice as he does of his body, he could sing a lot better.

Yes, your voice changes (the timbre, the tone), but your range doesn't have to diminish, it can even grow wider. It's all in the technique and the care you give your voice.

Ice
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