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Old 11-27-2023, 08:58 AM
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I wouldn't be surprised if it was just Jon's ego, why he won't let Richie back in. Richie can still sing. Maybe not as well as he could, but comparatively to Jon, he sings great! Hell, even amazingly!
i dont think so. I just think Jon cannot trust Richie 100%. How do we know they havent met/talked and richie was slurring/ acting eratic etc...or maybe Jons seen a few videos like the thing Richie did with the Foos guitarist on youtube that was so bad it was taken down and thought I can't announce a tour/reunion inc Richie as id be constantly worried he'd not turn up/be pissed/be sloppy etc.

Of course we dont know this but id be amazed if Jon hadnt seen that youtube video.

Only Richie is banging on about a reunion. Jon, Dave and Tico havent said anything.

BTW - Wheres Richies album that was coming in March? More proof of Richies unreliability.

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Old 11-27-2023, 10:35 AM
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Why should they go back together at all? To make more $$$$
Of course it would all be about to money. I know fans like to romanticise aboutit, but I really don't think there is any love lost between Jon and Richie. And reunion tours are big bucks - you need an angle to sell a tour these days and another flop album from the current line up isn't really gonna do it. But a 40th anniversary reunion tour would take it up a huge notch as far as the promoters are concerned...
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Old 11-27-2023, 11:42 AM
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This question might be for another thread but.....were the albums really the angle behind the tour? From an artistic point, yeah, Jon wants there to be an album so he can tour but the new single was never the catalyst for what was selling tickets.

The steep decline in ticket sales came from over saturation of markets (something that was heavily alleviated because of the pandemic) and massive ticket costs for lower quality shows. Richie won't fix either of those things, hell I can see them RAISING prices if he comes back.

I go back and forth if the new albums flopping have anything to do with the tours as they've been flopping for 13 years now and it hasn't effected the show sales.
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Old 11-27-2023, 01:42 PM
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We all know that tours bring the money, especially for bands like BJ.

If jon decides to pursuit a big ambitious tour i think he ll want to have Richie along as an extra boost in sales and media interest.

if he decides his voice wont hold on and keep it in a small scale i guess he wont involve Richie.
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I go back and forth if the new albums flopping have anything to do with the tours as they've been flopping for 13 years now and it hasn't effected the show sales.
When you've had a number one album it generates a lot of press, no matter how you got there. You can't call it a flop when it was a number 1 in the eyes of the majority.

A lot of promoters won't put a band out without an angle to use for promoton, whether that's a comeback, an anniversary, a reunion or a new album. The fact that there is new product out means that the promoter has an angle to promote the tour. With all the bad press that the band got from the last tour, they are going to need something to big to sell the next tour. This time it's more likely to be 40th anniversary then a new album as they know a new album isn't going to be enough this time, because the last one is the first album that has been a flop in the eyes of the general public. There's no reason to think that this one will do any better at this stage.
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If a reunion were to be happening at all at this stage they'd be recording the new album with Richie. Why people still hold out hope when these types of articles that hang on to a quote from Richie that was just a passing comment made at a horse race event is beyond me! If and when it happens it would be a great surprise but, I just can't see it. Also Richie won't help sell out shows at all tbh, Eddie Trunk said it some time ago, for legacy bands it's more they're logos selling the tickets and the majority of the audience going not even researching the band, it's members or what songs or albums are out recently. It's just the name, and the fact that it might be an "event" because of said bands history....
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If a reunion were to be happening at all at this stage they'd be recording the new album with Richie. Why people still hold out hope when these types of articles that hang on to a quote from Richie that was just a passing comment made at a horse race event is beyond me! If and when it happens it would be a great surprise but, I just can't see it. Also Richie won't help sell out shows at all tbh, Eddie Trunk said it some time ago, for legacy bands it's more they're logos selling the tickets and the majority of the audience going not even researching the band, it's members or what songs or albums are out recently. It's just the name, and the fact that it might be an "event" because of said bands history....
I don't think anyone is saying that the reunion is happening at this stage. Just that there will almost certainly be a 40th anniversary tour. Other than that it's just speculating and what if's....

As for Eddie Trunk he spouts so much rubbish he's not far off Anthony Bon Jovi level
I've never heard such nonsense. A "Reunion" tour is big money. If it wasn't why would bands still be doing them? Because it sells tickets, they can raise the prices and makes them a shed load more money, that's why! It's all in the way it's promoted. There's no angle on using a new Bon Jovi album to sell a tour. No one cares now, it's a non-event. Unlike a 40th Anniversary tour, or a reunion tour! It makes ALL the difference...especially after all the bad press from the last tour.
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I don't think anyone is saying that the reunion is happening at this stage. Just that there will almost certainly be a 40th anniversary tour. Other than that it's just speculating and what if's....

As for Eddie Trunk he spouts so much rubbish he's not far off Anthony Bon Jovi level
I've never heard such nonsense. A "Reunion" tour is big money. If it wasn't why would bands still be doing them? Because it sells tickets, they can raise the prices and makes them a shed load more money, that's why! It's all in the way it's promoted. There's no angle on using a new Bon Jovi album to sell a tour. No one cares now, it's a non-event. Unlike a 40th Anniversary tour, or a reunion tour! It makes ALL the difference...especially after all the bad press from the last tour.
Reunion tours sell, I agree. For whatever reason, North America is where Jon seems to care the most about being big. Whether it's distance from home or just wanting to be an American superstar. This is the country that cares the least about any member of this band without his initials. Love the guy to death, I don't know if it would make the difference it would make here that it would in Europe or Japan. They'd do much bigger numbers out there.

Having Richie back is an angle from promotion but from the piss breaks I saw anytime he sang anything that wasn't a talk box, the general public isn't as gaga. Diehards would come back I think (if they can stomach Jon's voice). If he spent the time away building his own fan base and nurturing a connection, doing shows and releasing albums thus would all be a very different discussion..
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Unlike a 40th Anniversary tour, or a reunion tour! It makes ALL the difference...especially after all the bad press from the last tour.
So if Jon's smart enough, he first makes a 40th Anniversary tour without Richie, afterwards a reunion tour with Richie and finally a farewell tour either with or without him. Man, his dream of buying a football team has never been so close!
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So if Jon's smart enough, he first makes a 40th Anniversary tour without Richie, afterwards a reunion tour with Richie and finally a farewell tour either with or without him. Man, his dream of buying a football team has never been so close!
Donald Trump is already building a wall around Buffalo to keep Jon from going back to that

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