[Jeeper]

I agree about Richie not being that great a frontman. I saw him on the US tour & while he was vocally superb/played fantastic, he just didn't control an audience that well. That's not a criticism either, as there are plenty of singers who don't. Not everyone can be a Freddie Mercury type.

It's only a bigger issue if the playing is poor. Play/sound great, nobody really cares about the rest.




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[soundfire624]

Originally Posted by Thinny

Sadly with Shanks still producing, I doubt that we would be able to tell he was even there at all...

The one song where I do really miss Richie on the new record is Scars On This Guitar. His backing vocals would have sounded amazing singing with Jon on that...

EXACTLY that's what i thought..check out on my post i wrote that..
Scar was done poorly..it should be A HIT if they produce it elegantly, the weird stuff was when the background voice sing along..It would be awesome if Richie did it...

[soundfire624]

Originally Posted by Jeeper

I agree about Richie not being that great a frontman. I saw him on the US tour & while he was vocally superb/played fantastic, he just didn't control an audience that well. That's not a criticism either, as there are plenty of singers who don't. Not everyone can be a Freddie Mercury type.

It's only a bigger issue if the playing is poor. Play/sound great, nobody really cares about the rest.




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Now that's something that JON DOES ! He is a great frontmanj..he can bring the audience comes to live..

[Jeeper]

Originally Posted by soundfire624

Now that's something that JON DOES ! He is a great frontmanj..he can bring the audience comes to live..

An in form JBJ is one of the World's greatest frontmen. No question for me.

That isn't Richie's strongpoint but with his voice it doesn't need to be.


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[semigoodlookin]

Originally Posted by soundfire624

Now that's something that JON DOES ! He is a great frontmanj..he can bring the audience comes to live..

That was arguably JBJ's great skill beyond anything else. His ability to make the person on the back row of an 80,000 crowd feel like Jon was talking directly to them. It is something even some frontmen regarded higher than Jon don't have and in fact, I would say he is one of the few to possess that magic.

I agree it is not a slight on Richie at all that he lacks that. There are other issues surrounding his viability as a frontman for me.

[Old Joysey]

I think you guys meant to post over there:
http://www.drycounty.com/jovitalk/bo...ml#post1210692
because this thread deals with the current tour.



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[semigoodlookin]

Originally Posted by Old Joysey

I think you guys meant to post over there:
http://www.drycounty.com/jovitalk/bo...ml#post1210692
because this thread deals with the current tour.



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Newcastle - Prayer (snippet). He missed his own cue!
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Indeed, sorry for derailing. Can you move our posts please?

[Santa Fe]

Originally Posted by Xavi

Hey guys!
I have a friend whos attending Richies show in London and he asked me if I knew in which hotel is he going to stay.
I told him that Bon Jovi and also Richie in 2012 always booked in the Mandarin Hotel at Hyde Park Corner.
Does anybody know if he is going to be there again or they are changing to any other hotel?
Thankx

When they did the Because We Can tour they weren't at the Mandarin Oriental , they stayed in another expensive hotel but I can not remember the name of that hotel right now

[Santa Fe]

Originally Posted by Xavi

Hey guys!
I have a friend whos attending Richies show in London and he asked me if I knew in which hotel is he going to stay.
I told him that Bon Jovi and also Richie in 2012 always booked in the Mandarin Hotel at Hyde Park Corner.
Does anybody know if he is going to be there again or they are changing to any other hotel?
Thankx

I think that in the last tour the band stayed at the Savoy Hotel .

[Old Joysey]

Originally Posted by semigoodlookin

Indeed, sorry for derailing.

Actually I don't really mind, it's just that, as Captain_Jovi said in your thread:

Originally Posted by Captain_jovi

you can put a countdown to this turning into a Jon vs Richie argument.

It seems like it's Let's trash Richie time again these days!


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According to setlist.fm, they opened with Marvin Gaye's What's Goin'On in Newcastle. He seems to be changing the first song every other show, but still no new RSO song to end it... One last chance tomorrow in London, fingers crossed!

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EDIT
a review of the Newcastle gig
http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/whats...arebar_twitter