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Old 04-09-2024, 11:32 AM
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For me at some point the songs will be released in full version behind a paywall or something…

Probably only photos, news and videos will be free, but full songs not.



Maybe it will be something like Alex Band did, even if with some differences.


https://www.patreon.com/alexband
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Old 04-09-2024, 12:17 PM
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I'd pay for some of this stuff, for sure. I'd prefer a physical release, but given it's the BJ organization with their subscription to santa hats, we're probably lucky if we can just buy individual tracks or even "eras" and don't have to subscribe to whatever else shit they're gonna try to plug this time around (Hampton Water?)
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Old 04-09-2024, 12:42 PM
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I'd pay for some of this stuff, for sure. I'd prefer a physical release, but given it's the BJ organization with their subscription to santa hats, we're probably lucky if we can just buy individual tracks or even "eras" and don't have to subscribe to whatever else shit they're gonna try to plug this time around (Hampton Water?)
The good thing of an experience like this is that we'll have also some rough demos, some also in different stages that in a standard box set we would not have.



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Old 04-09-2024, 06:38 PM
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Jon's tour diary from the NJ era:
https://backstage.bonjovi.com/artifact/0006449

Also indirectly answers why Jon might've not gone for a songwriting credit on "18 And Life":
"...I never thought when we wrote 18 + Life in my bedroom in Bradley Beach that they'd be this big! Oh yes I did!"
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Old 04-09-2024, 07:18 PM
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One thing I'm certain of: Skid Row would not make it big without Jon (and the band). This does not mean they were not (very) talented, just that it was cut-throat business with very vertical hierarchy back then. So I don't agree with Skid Row's claims about unfair businessman Jon taking his cut; it's just petty and for principle, I would also take that money, even burn it before giving back as it is a necessary condition for their success. Did the Jon & co write those singles or not, I don't know, I seem to believe they did, but don't have a side really.
As far as I know Jon and snake were friends growing up and promised to help the other if one should make it. jon certainly got Skid Row in the door, but it was Bach that was the missing ingredient and the primary reason Skid Row had a bit of success for a few years. Even with jon's help I believe the record company was unwilling to give them a contract until fallon was replaced with bach. Without Bach's vocals to elevate those songs, you have nothing imo. in addition to being a vocal powerhouse with an amazing tone Bach also looked the part for mtv purposes.
I think Jon mostly reviewed what snake and bolan came up with themselves, not sure why he didn't take a co-writers credit as you don't have to do much to get one.

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Old 04-09-2024, 07:33 PM
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https://backstage.bonjovi.com/artifa...arsal-cassette

Oh wow. A higher tempo Livin in Sin and BORN IN THE 60's. That's been on ASCAP forever and had zero idea it was a New Jersey demo.
That's gone now
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That's gone now
Nope: https://backstage.bonjovi.com/artifact/0006780_001
Still alive
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Old 04-09-2024, 10:05 PM
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For some reason, once you click the link it redirects to a different artifact
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For some reason, once you click the link it redirects to a different artifact
Still there.

https://backstage.bonjovi.com/artifact/0006780
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Jon's tour diary from the NJ era:
https://backstage.bonjovi.com/artifact/0006449

Also indirectly answers why Jon might've not gone for a songwriting credit on "18 And Life":
"...I never thought when we wrote 18 + Life in my bedroom in Bradley Beach that they'd be this big! Oh yes I did!"
So I guess it's pretty much official that he, at the very least, cowrote it and I could probably pick out most of his lyrics.

Maybe it was one of those living on a prayer deals where he thought the song was good but not great. And honestly, it was Sebastion's vocals and delivery that brought that song to a next level of brilliance.

I wonder if there is a Jon demo at any stage? This is the second time this has now been brought up and I'm sure it's not on coincidence.

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