Legendary - new single

I think people strive for a more interesting and darker song but those usually end up being overtly political songs nowadays. And I would probably share most of Jon's political leanings but those songs rarely turn out very well.

He seems to have 3 modes nowadays.

- Preachy and political mode
- Bland uplifting songs that really don't have much substance
- Ballads with very little sexiness or romance (unlike the ones he use to create
with ease like Always, Bed Of Roses etc.

I agree completely. Unfortunately, Jon has the biggest inspiration with 1st type I think, but it just doesn't transpire to the whole end product. With good heart and good intentions but bad or not perfectionist process of getting idea to recorded song, we end up with e.g. Work for the Working man cringe. Though I do think some songs on 2020 are better handled.

But overall yeah, Jovi has lost its formula: optimistic but not cringe, anthemic but not try-hard, larger than life stadium rock (but not "please remember the hook so we can still be relevant")

Again, sincerely I do think on a significant number of songs after HAND it's due to production choices and not going to the limit (especially voice, but also guitar and drums). Even if Jon goes to studio with some solid songwriting, if drums are pre-programmed, if Sambora arrives for 2 afternoons (and then Shanks records over his parts anyway) and if Jon trusts Shanks with no questions asked (the biggest problem), what you get is the vision of one lacklustre and complacent producer that refuses to push Jon, the band, himself to the limit. Sometimes in the past, production was generally good or excellent, but we always at least had live energy of the band (iconic band in live setting in their prime). Nowadays, we have subpar live perfomances but also very erroneous, misguided and not top-level production which makes it much worse, especially when band still had that hit or two left (2009 - 2013)

The creativity pool has dried up. Especially with Shanks as a band partner, writer, producer, etc. He is just not Richie.

Apparently, Jon is now tone-deaf to his own voice so even the studio vocals sound rough and robotic.

I feel like one's personally comes out in a song and Jon just lost his cool and attitude. He's now an awkward version of his old self. There are times when he seems normal, and then there are times when he comes off strange. Like his movements and how he pronounses words. I can't figure out if it's an act or if he's just straight-up fed up with celebrity. He even makes that Joe Biden dementia look at times. .

I'm not going to judge the album on this one song (and now Hollow Man). But it's continuing right were 2020 left off... (although Hollow Man was written in 2021)..

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Hollow man is a nice singer/songwriter song, but not for everybody.

Looking forward to Waves and Living proof.

Based on the other titles alone, Walls of Jericho might be a good one

One thing that's occurred to me that probably hampers the streams of new songs in general (at least on Spotify) is that the new ones are never going to get played more than songs like Prayer etc so never got onto the Popular tab. Legendary is on something like 800k plays after nearly a week, whilst a few of their songs get that in a day.

I don't remember how much Limitless did in its first week but I do know how much This House Is Not For Sale did.

Bon Jovi This House Is Not For Sale video ---- 1.746.000 views in 7 days.

I don't think I can beat that mark tomorrow.

While that's true, other means of streaming have become more popular since 2016 (Jesus, it's been a while). I for one didn't have Spotify back then, so YouTube was the only way for me to listen to the new single.

just to the right of prayer it shows a countdown for Forever, if I scroll down slightly, under popular releases it shows legendary to the left of Slippery, Crush, Keep The Faith.

If it's anything like The Fighter it won't be for me.

It's nuts to think that THINFS was nearly 8 years ago