Legendary - new single

all true.

If this is the kind of music Jon wants to make then cool, but I hope he's not making songs like Legendary because he thinks it will be a hit or that the people that attend the concerts are going to hear something like that.

I disagree. I feel like 75% of the people that bothered to check out Legendary had no desire to listen to the song more than once or twice. They lose more fans with each new single they release as far as new material goes, so not really sure they are making very many current fans that are still hanging on happy at all. They can still sell out stadiums due to their rock anthems, so it's even more ironic that Jon gets further and further from the thing that is the only reason he even has a career. The fact that a song like Legendary can reach 3 million streams is a feat in itself, of course it is due to the Bon Jovi banner, but it's also sad as the Bon Jovi banner will initially draw people in but you got to have a song that will keep them drawn in.

So Legendary isn't making the majority of the current fans happy nor drawing in new ones, but a proper rock single and album would bring back a lot of the ones who went away. Jon seems blissfully unware of this though.

How could you possibly know that? That is a ridiculous thing to say and is pure projection.

You're basing this on nothing though. You can't make up a bunch of numbers and say Jon is unaware of what you believe to be what's happening.

With this I completely agree. My main trouble is with Jon, does he really believe next hit is possible in vein of WWBTF, BWC, This House, Limitless, now Legendary, or is it like Captain Jovi implies, it's a rational, safe choice with no real hit potential, but it does it's job, at least in North America? If I can hazard a guess about Jon, then I would say he's still chasing the hit, whatever he says on the contrary.

The first part you say is probably true. The second part I completely agree, much of output is drowned in similar non-offensive production, where it would be better to either go down rock route, or pop route, or country route or whatever, just a bit more driven, focused and not elevator middle of the road stuff.

I think others are reacting to this too harshly, but this is a state of mind of Europe (and I guess, South America?). I learned from CaptainJovi new perspective that I kind of neglected, that average fan in North America is different. But in Europe, very large majority of fans are kind of giving a chance to new stuff, but it doesn't really stand a chance to become part of "staple material" due to being bland. While in NA, I presume it does more.

Perhaps we shouldn't underestimate Jon's business intuition and this is rational. You dissapoint rock legacy fans, but they hop along still. While you do take a chance on some new AC fans in North America. Me personally, I wish it was different, but I am obviously biased.

It's a sad state of affairs when Bon Jovi, a band universally known and considered to be a rock band have to drastically shift their sound to appeal to a rock audience. That is part of the problem with the band. Jon is constantly denying what they actually are. I know that there are many reason for that but still...

The fan base that they have currently are mainly 50+ women who will think that whatever they release is amazing. It doesn't matter if they released a pop single, a rock single, or a reggie infused jazz prog rock affair - as long as Jon shakes his ass at some point it's all good. THAT is the current Bon Jovi fan base on the whole I'm afraid...

Truth is that a new Bon Jovi song is just not really going to appearl out anyone outside of that. Those people are going to buy the album what ever they do. The ONLY real chance that they have is building their audince in this day and age, in my opinion, is the rock audience, but they've come so far away from that stylistically now it seems impossible.

If this core fan base is so pleased, why is Legendary only at 3 million streams and basically already dead in the water? Who is gonna come along for the ride? Again, if Jon actually likes this than cool but he isn't catering to anyone that I can see. This core fan base has been shrinking at an unbelievably accelerated rate and is showing no signs of slowing down.

Unfortuantely Bon Jovi have never had the respect that U2 or Bruce had. They were lumped in with the hair metal scene and 99% of people will always see them as a hard rock band. Even though the style is not a million miles from Bon Jovi, Bruce and U2 are both seen as softer rock by the general public and transcended the rock genre in a way that Bon Jovi never have.

He has to be blissfully unware, he thinks Legendary is a hit, and hasn't shifted gears back to what would bring back all the fans he's lost.

well it's only at 3 million streams so either Jon has a very small percentage of people interested in his new music or the majority of the people who checked it out didn't bother to listen again. Did 300,000 people listen to it 10 times each or did most people listen once or twice and forgot about it? Either way it's very weak numbers for a band of Bon Jovi's stature. I think it actually started off not too bad then died a quick death due to the fact that very few people were willing to give it repeated listens.