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Old 05-04-2016, 05:59 PM
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If HAND, The Circle, WAN all sounded the same then I'd agree. Locked into the same producer, yes, absolutely. But you're confusing being mediocre with similar sounding albums. Those three albums have pretty different sounds to the point that no one is confusing them with each other, whereas a band like AC/DC is a sound that stretches across decades.
Was thinking the same thing Matt. For better or worse, the band doesn't repeat a sound or risky deviations like TLFR, Lost Highway (which I love), etc.
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is that what the forum has become? People moaning about an album they havent heard yet?
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Aside from the Shanks connection, it doesn't help that the record label has decided to sit on the first single for two more months and the album for five months while there won't be a tour until early next year. If the label or tour promoter thought they had a hot seller on their hands, they'd have had Jon up to his earlobes in summer tour plans by now.
Maybe They felt that releasing it in first few months on 2016 would be too close to Burning Bridges.

Also we dont actually know that the Label have held it back at all but maybe they have seen the release schedule and think its better released later on. We dont know.
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Maybe They felt that releasing it in first few months on 2016 would be too close to Burning Bridges.

Also we dont actually know that the Label have held it back at all but maybe they have seen the release schedule and think its better released later on. We dont know.
Yup. It means they have the financial backing for a decent promo campaign. Fingers cross they right what they did wrong with WAN.

I won't say a single negative thing about the songs on the album until it's out, I think people need to at least give it that chance.
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Is there a date for that pic of Jon holding the Island shirt?
There is now. It looks like one of the studio shots from the BB days, but it is recent -- May 3 2016.



Maybe it was it meant to be mockup of the recent National Football League draft, LOL!



Now if only Island would get around to actually confirming it.
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I'm not saying it's mediocre. Just I do not like this team. Jon and his producer John Shanks make the album. The latest albums sound very similar, both lyrically, intrumental and produced, they just change the mix. I could put a song like We All Fall Down on the HAND, Lost Highway or WAN albums and be coherent.

Only say, need changes structures, new approach, reinventing a bit.. We are in 2016 for the love of God..


And before everyone wants to shoot me, I just want to add a different perspective on the forum.

You can say without hearing the album, oh will be great! I'm excited , but you can not say something critical about it.
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I'm not saying it's mediocre. Just I do not like this team. Jon and his producer John Shanks make the album. The latest albums sound very similar, both lyrically, intrumental and produced, they just change the mix. I could put a song like We All Fall Down on the HAND, Lost Highway or WAN albums and be coherent.

Only say, need changes structures, new approach, reinventing a bit.. We are in 2016 for the love of God..


And before everyone wants to shoot me, I just want to add a different perspective on the forum.

You can say without hearing the album, oh will be great! I'm excited , but you can not say something critical about it.
You're absolutely right you can't say something critical because you're critiquing something that doesn't even exist to us. I'm NOT saying it will be great, no one is. Different perspectives are great, we're saying give the album a chance to be hated at least.

Some of the songs would fit on other albums because they're Bon Jovi, that's what they sound like. I'm talking about albums as a whole.

Also stop calling them a team of Jon and John. Richie co-wrote every single track of The Circle and co-produced it as well as numerous songs and albums with John Shanks. I could care less how that makes you feel, stop excluding him from your revisionist history to fit your point.
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I think Rolo is being unfairly flamed. His suggestion that an album with the same producer and same label will likely just create more of the same is not an unreasonable or unrealistic prediction. They may have recorded it differently this time with the entire band together rather than the piecemeal method they've been using for a while, but I don't see that alone making a monumental difference. I think the biggest difference with this album will be, for better or for worse, Richie's absence.

Had Jon replaced Shanks and/or had he gone with either an indy or some other label which could have possibly provided him with more artistic freedom, then the expectation of a truly different Bon Jovi album would be far greater. But Rolo expressing that he doesn't foresee a huge departure from the past few albums under this recurring model Jon keeps using is a fair in my opinion.
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Some of the songs would fit on other albums because they're Bon Jovi, that's what they sound like. I'm talking about albums as a whole.

Also stop calling them a team of Jon and John. Richie co-wrote every single track of The Circle and co-produced it as well as numerous songs and albums with John Shanks. I could care less how that makes you feel, stop excluding him from your revisionist history to fit your point.
Thank you for pointing this out.

To me, Lost Highway (I love) is very different from The Circle (I don't like much) and both are very different from What About Now (I'm lukewarm about) and, of course, all are different from Burning Bridges (I love). There's an undercurrent to all albums that makes them undeniably Bon Jovi, but they are hardly cookie cutter albums. I fully expect the next album to stand on its own just as Lost Highway and The Circle do..... for good or bad.
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If HAND is the same album like LH? (seriolusly?) The Circle, BB or WAN
Then SWW is the same album like NJ, BJ like Fahrenheit and TD like KTFaith.

I Don't see place in HAND for We All Fall Down. If they will change sound of that song from Pop-rock to more modern rock then it could fit. But I think that Born To Be My Baby, Sleep When I'm Dead or I'd Die For You would fit much better on HAND if they would make them more modern rock (in style of Novocaine for example).
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