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Old 05-13-2024, 09:54 PM
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Lol, I don't think there will be another single before the albums release. Jon thinks it's a hit, and still is a hit. As long as he thinks that, I'm not sure we'll get another single.
Jon thinking its a hit has dick all with what the record label think is a hit though. He's not the label.
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Jon thinking its a hit has dick all with what the record label think is a hit though. He's not the label.
True. I think 2nd single is coming before the album, perhaps even 3rd in the week of the album.

But if I was in shoes of record label exec, I would seriously consider for Jovi different songs for North America vs. International market.
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But if I was in shoes of record label exec, I would seriously consider for Jovi different songs for North America vs. International market.
I think Thinny, would tell you that's how the music industry doesn't work. You can't have one Bon Jovi song for North America and another for an International Market.

Let's be honest it doesn't really matter what Bon Jovi puts-out in North America, or International it's highly unlikely to be a played on commercial radio lots of times, the best the label can hope for is through streaming. ( Spotify and Youtube etc)

The Age of the Band counts agaisnt them, even if JBJ had a great vocal voice today, like 80's/90's) Also what Bon Jovi have put-out since The Circle/WAN has perhaps affected any Radio commercial interest in them.

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I think Thinny, would tell you that's how the music industry doesn't work. You can't have one Bon Jovi song for North America and another for an International Market.

Let's be honest it doesn't really matter what Bon Jovi puts-out in North America, or International it's highly unlikely to be a played on commercial radio lots of times, the best the label can hope for is through streaming. ( Spotify and Youtube etc)

The Age of the Band counts agaisnt them, even if JBJ had a great vocal voice today, like 80's/90's) Also what Bon Jovi have put-out since The Circle/WAN has perhaps affected any Radio commercial interest in them.
I don't disagree about radio airplay, but in Europe there is a large contingent of legacy rock fans of 30-70 year olds that are still very interested in what Jovi releases. Since HAND, it was one listen and goodbye, but they are still interested, cause Jovi is a "hard rock stadium band" as far as general public is concerned.

Get them (and me) another HAND kind of rocking single and it's nice, repeated listens that follow. That's better than the obvious alternative (no or minor paid radio airplay with mocking or meh reactions).

If general audience in Europe knew songs such as Brokenpromiseland or Any Other Day, story of decline would be a bit different I guess (and they "know" singles, why they aren't hits among this audience is not primarily due to little radio exposure, but due to little song quality in rock audience eyes).

I can understand it's completely different in North America, though.
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I think Thinny, would tell you that's how the music industry doesn't work. You can't have one Bon Jovi song for North America and another for an International Market.

Let's be honest it doesn't really matter what Bon Jovi puts-out in North America, or International it's highly unlikely to be a played on commercial radio lots of times, the best the label can hope for is through streaming. ( Spotify and Youtube etc)

The Age of the Band counts agaisnt them, even if JBJ had a great vocal voice today, like 80's/90's) Also what Bon Jovi have put-out since The Circle/WAN has perhaps affected any Radio commercial interest in them.
While I agree whole heartedly about the last part, the first confuses me. Why can't you release different songs in different continents? Unless something happened since the early 2000's when this was pretty common I don't see the problem.
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While I agree whole heartedly about the last part, the first confuses me. Why can't you release different songs in different continents? Unless something happened since the early 2000's when this was pretty common I don't see the problem.
I just think releasing single(s) in different markets (North America and International) would disappoint fans if one single(s) was better than the other.

But, nowadays, I guess you could just buy it if you liked hearing it.....and don't if you don't. ( If they did seperate singles for different Countries, North America, vs International)

So perhaps you can still release singles for different markets, it was just my opinion.
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I just think releasing single(s) in different markets (North America and International) would disappoint fans if one single(s) was better than the other.

But, nowadays, I guess you could just buy it if you liked hearing it.....and don't if you don't. ( If they did seperate singles for different Countries, North America, vs International)

So perhaps you can still release singles for different markets, it was just my opinion.
You can release different singles in different markets, but it's not done as much these days for many reasons. As Cap said it used to happen quite a lot. At the end of the day it all comes down to money. If the European market wants a different song they would probably be expected to pay for the video etc, where as if they just use the same one as North America, it's already paid for. There isn't as much money in the music biz as there used to be so no one wants to take that risk and then have the single flop any way. Also, with YouTube etc it's hard to focus on different tracks for different territories.

If it was me, I would keep the same single as the main single, and then release a different track specifically to rock radio stations at the same time. No need for a video. Keeps costs down and opens a different avenue for promotion.
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Bon Jovi are taking the stage on American Idol this Sunday 19th May 2024. 8 P.M EST ( that's 12.00 A.M BST UK Time)

Does this mean JBJ sings a song? "Legendary" or a new single?

Source: https://twitter.com/i/status/1789971563304890400

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Bon Jovi are taking the stage on American Idol this Sunday 19th May 2024. 8 P.M EST ( that's 12.00 A.M BST UK Time)

Does this mean JBJ sings a song? "Legendary" or a new single?
I'd put my money on Legendary
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I'd put my money on Legendary
Probably and unfortunately.

I expect subpar performance of subpar song. Fitting to kill the single off the charts, opposite of what other bands do to plug them into popularity
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