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Old 06-15-2016, 07:22 PM
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Your optimism is nice but saying if Bounce was a double album it would have sold more is steeped in crazysauce.

Perhaps, but if it would be a better album.
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Perhaps, but if it would be a better album.
I'm not sure I agree. There was a lot of good songs in the b-sides but the album was just too disjointed. It was clear where 9/11 changed the viewpoint of the album and almost made it a second type of album. I don't think the underproduced songs that became b-sides would fit alongside the over-produced album cuts. That and I don't think some of the songs are godo enough to warrant a double disc release but I guess that's just personal preference.
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I'm not sure I agree. There was a lot of good songs in the b-sides but the album was just too disjointed. It was clear where 9/11 changed the viewpoint of the album and almost made it a second type of album. I don't think the underproduced songs that became b-sides would fit alongside the over-produced album cuts. That and I don't think some of the songs are godo enough to warrant a double disc release but I guess that's just personal preference.
I totally agree. Bounce felt disjointed because a lot of the first batch was allegedly rejected by the record company, hence the band adding different tracks and many of the original tunes ending up as B-sides. Your double album idea is just a collection of all tunes available, but I don't think it would've worked any better. The material just isn't strong enough overall and I actually think that even the songs for Sons of Beaches in 1988 wouldn't have been strong enough for a 2 CD release back in the day.
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I totally agree. Bounce felt disjointed because a lot of the first batch was allegedly rejected by the record company, hence the band adding different tracks and many of the original tunes ending up as B-sides. Your double album idea is just a collection of all tunes available, but I don't think it would've worked any better. The material just isn't strong enough overall and I actually think that even the songs for Sons of Beaches in 1988 wouldn't have been strong enough for a 2 CD release back in the day.
Yeah. I don't know if the record label actually rejected the tracks but had 9/11 happened you have to wonder what kind of album it would have been and if the live your life theme would have been as strong.
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What I mean is that, in the case of the new album of Richie and Ori, we have a double album, it is good news, since they are two artists working together, and it is very difficult to take a leading role in an album of 12 songs. Having a double album, it would be for me the right path, in spite of some songs are disjointed. with the whole, in fact, nothing guarantees that an Abum of 12 songs is not disjointed. Bounce is the example. But if you have in your possession a double album Bounce, you can create your album of 12 songs about 9/11, better fitted.

Basically, it is what I mean at first. It has a double album, it is to have a good guarantee to choose your ideal album of 12 songs.
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What I mean is that, in the case of the new album of Richie and Ori, we have a double album, it is good news, since they are two artists working together, and it is very difficult to take a leading role in an album of 12 songs. Having a double album, it would be for me the right path, in spite of some songs are disjointed. with the whole, in fact, nothing guarantees that an Abum of 12 songs is not disjointed. Bounce is the example. But if you have in your possession a double album Bounce, you can create your album of 12 songs about 9/11, better fitted.

Basically, it is what I mean at first. It has a double album, it is to have a good guarantee to choose your ideal album of 12 songs.
I see what you mean. The thing is though, and it is my own personal feeling only, that I don't think it is two equal artists working together. As much as I like Ori as a songwriter Richie is on a different level. Ori didn't write anything on her record that had the pop hits - much of it was even recorded before the lead singer was chosen to an extend that even Phil X is on the guitar on the record, which is obviously completely counterproductive Ori being Ori. Her other records have been a bit thin on good material, not that the pop record was great either, but just going through what she has written. Playing is there and unlike some others I like her voice, but she hasn't been able to write enough good songs.

She is a fine player, but a bit more of a hired gun than a writer. Richie is a writer. If they have ten good songs I will be more than satisfied to be honest. I guess it goes around to what you said - that maybe they and the produced fail to pick the right ones. But I am personally more worried about the quality of the material in general. It has taken an awfully long time to make this record.

But, I am still hoping for the best.
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Hey guys, sorry if it was answered before but.... based on which information we assume that *maybe* the new album would be 2 discs? Confirmed by Richie or Ori?
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Hey guys, sorry if it was answered before but.... based on which information we assume that *maybe* the new album would be 2 discs? Confirmed by Richie or Ori?
I think Richie said in an interview that there's enough for two discs and either the board ran with that (As it tends to do) or she actually said it might be.
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Hey guys, sorry if it was answered before but.... based on which information we assume that *maybe* the new album would be 2 discs? Confirmed by Richie or Ori?
i dont think the label would allow a 2 disc album as its too costly. This album isnt going to sell much.
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Old 06-16-2016, 04:46 PM
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i dont think the label would allow a 2 disc album as its too costly. This album isnt going to sell much.
Yeah. Albums don't sell much these days, period, unless you're Taylor Swift. And this is not very likely to chart anyway.
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