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Old 08-04-2016, 11:34 PM
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AH, if the producer they mentioned having troubles with was Beardon then a big chunk of my theory goes out the window. The rest is still odd though. I don't think his problems with Nikki would prevent putting literally anything out.
I don't think the stuff with Nikki would prevent Richie, legally, from releasing something, if that's what you mean. My impression at the time was that Roman was saying the delays were caused by Richie being "tied up" in dealing with them - like perhaps with court appearances meetings with lawyers, depositions, that kind of thing.

But the Ebbin thing. He hasn't been involved in this project at all, has he? I wonder if there was some falling out between AOTL and this project?

At any rate, I don't remember any of the legal references being tied to music at all - unless Nikki could make some claim that some of it came from the songwriting they did together. Otherwise I think it was all over the threats and Richie's counter suit.

But I've slept since then, too.
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But the Ebbin thing. He hasn't been involved in this project at all, has he?
Yes, in 2014 he co-recorded/produced Ori's "Every Road" for her Japan-only greatest hits CD and then we assumed he was working on the RSO album too.
http://www.drycounty.com/jovitalk/ne...796/page5.html

There's a "black hole" between August and October 2014: Ebbin reheased with Richie and Ori in August but it was Bearden who played with them in October
http://www.drycounty.com/jovitalk/ne...796/page7.html
and then there was a new "black hole": exit Bearden, enter Bob Rock.


Richie and Ori gave a phone interview before their 2 gigs in Brazil. The new release date is December. People, take note.
http://cultura.estadao.com.br/notici...ra,10000060900

in Google English:
https://translate.google.fr/translat...%2C10000060900
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Old 08-05-2016, 01:43 AM
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Yes, in 2014 he co-recorded/produced Ori's "Every Road" for her Japan-only greatest hits CD and then we assumed he was working on the RSO album too.
http://www.drycounty.com/jovitalk/ne...796/page5.html

There's a "black hole" between August and October 2014: Ebbin reheased with Richie and Ori in August but it was Bearden who played with them in October
http://www.drycounty.com/jovitalk/ne...796/page7.html
and then there was a new "black hole": exit Bearden, enter Bob Rock.


Richie and Ori gave a phone interview before their 2 gigs in Brazil. The new release date is December. People, take note.
http://cultura.estadao.com.br/notici...ra,10000060900

in Google English:
https://translate.google.fr/translat...%2C10000060900
You're the best for putting this all together, thank you. As far as I know there's been nothing on his social media channels about a falling out. I don't know if he was replaced by Michael or had had enough and walked away or what the deal was.

I mean this thread STARTED when Ori said the album will be out in April. Of 2014. So could it be coincidence that all the projects that Richie's camp not only talked about but actually completed couldn't be put out? I don't buy the theory that they're waiting for BJ to put something out but something absolutely has to be happening behind the scenes for money to be put into projects and then abandoned completely.
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Old 08-05-2016, 02:52 AM
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You're welcome! I do remember we talked about this Ebbin/Bearden episode before and noticed we knew nothing about it.
Ebbin and Richie's former touring band did the Summer 2014 tour but in the fall, they were out of the picture and Bearden was at every show and event with Richie and Ori, which I found quite strange at the time. But none of them talked about it in their media outlets, you're right.

I don't "buy the theory that they're waiting for BJ to put something out" either, it doesn't make sense from a business perspective.
I'm led to believe that there's something that Richie can't control such as contractual obligations or any other legal clause or another act of blackmail that cause all the changes and delays we've been witnessing for 3 years. That's why I alluded to the Lund/Borg case: whatever's going on behind the scenes stays behind the scene... until TMZ reveals it!
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You're welcome! I do remember we talked about this Ebbin/Bearden episode before and noticed we knew nothing about it.
Ebbin and Richie's former touring band did the Summer 2014 tour but in the fall, they were out of the picture and Bearden was at every show and event with Richie and Ori, which I found quite strange at the time. But none of them talked about it in their media outlets, you're right.

I don't "buy the theory that they're waiting for BJ to put something out" either, it doesn't make sense from a business perspective.
I'm led to believe that there's something that Richie can't control such as contractual obligations or any other legal clause or another act of blackmail that cause all the changes and delays we've been witnessing for 3 years. That's why I alluded to the Lund/Borg case: whatever's going on behind the scenes stays behind the scene... until TMZ reveals it!
Hmm, maybe Jon/BJM is somehow able to hold Richie back from releasing something before the band does? I know it's far fetched, and I seem to remember Jon saying that Richie doesn't even have/need a contract. Still, that thought just popped up in my mind
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Hmm, maybe Jon/BJM is somehow able to hold Richie back from releasing something before the band does? I know it's far fetched, and I seem to remember Jon saying that Richie doesn't even have/need a contract. Still, that thought just popped up in my mind
When Richie (and the other guys) re-signed the band contract some years ago (I guess every contract last some years, not a lifetime), it could have a limitation not to release a solo project or release it under some terms.

This contract had been broken by Richie in 2013 by leaving. It's a grey area now, maybe these limitations still apply until they sort things out...

But, I have a feeling that Bon Jovi isn't the reason of this big delay in Richie's projects....
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I'm 99% sure it has nothing to do with the BJ Machine.
Roman mentioned "problem with R's producer" at a time when Bearden was his producer. And now I also remember a very long interview with Bearden (I posted the link here somewhere) in which he didn't mention Richie or Ori at all when he spoke about his past & current work. It was done and published before Roman's radio interview.

Does Ori read the board? Here's what she instagrammed today (she posted this photo before):
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Studio vibes yay ‪#‎bobrock‬ is back ⭐️✨☀️⚡️ https://t.co/W68qLzKdCw


Bearden is in the TBT category on the official RSO IG page:
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https://www.instagram.com/rsomusic/


and they're having a Soprano moment over there in Calabasas!
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- Ori's website was deleted some time ago (it hadn't been updated for years before it disappeared)
Just commenting on this. Ori's site was hacked years and years ago, and once it was put back on, it was never updated since. Not touching anything else, and this is all speculation, but I think this could have something to do with the website being part of her abandoned pop career. If you are talking about the old website that is. Perhaps the people behind that, were behind the web site as well. Once she joined Alice Cooper's band that road seemed to have already been abandoned and incidently all this hacking and moving to something else was around the time of releasing Heaven in this Hell.

Or, it could be that people behind the Heaven in this Hell - stage of her career which is the same time as she was with Coops - have abandoned the next website, who knows? She was involved a lot with Dave Stewart, for example, playing on his record and even starring his video girl in a catsuit. Nice video btw if someone hasn't seen it and she rips.

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If you are talking about the old website that is.
I'm talking about the one that was online in 2014/15. Like Richie, I didn't know Ori before 2014's New Year's Eve.

She's still a close friend of Dave Stewart's. She posted pics of herself at his Nashville home some time ago and he sometimes posts a nice comment on her IT/TWT pages.

I love this Eurythmics-sounding song with a Fellini-inspired video:
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Hmm, maybe Jon/BJM is somehow able to hold Richie back from releasing something before the band does? I know it's far fetched, and I seem to remember Jon saying that Richie doesn't even have/need a contract. Still, that thought just popped up in my mind

I don't think so. I think it's just been a mishmash mess from the start with all the "changes". There is no hurry because I don't think they, as in RSO have a label to push any contract. This is all on his dime. Scuttlebutt (gossip) was they were shopping for a label when they were in Nashville about a year ago and resigned with Doc as Mgr. They had brought her mgm and label into the Coach house show in LA last Sept. They also went from there to NY? Tommy M. has his label but it's indi and I will bet self pay, just provides a way to press, promote and release in an organized fashion. His friend left Dangerbird and went to Electra right before Dangerbird dropped him and again Indi with a split investment when from a business point of view he still had the BJ connection for value. I remember the interview during the AMOL time where he said they dropped him and he really seemed hurt by it. They had Samsung as a promoter in Brazil (they have done all the Best of Blues there) and will be opening for Bad Company so no promoter of their own either. This is a business - and Jon said Richie was not the name on the contract. He may have had an agreement with Jon but that would imo have ended with the tour, or when he failed to show. Have to be an escape clause. His only business connection to BJ now is that quarterly songwriters check when they have airplay or use of material.

Would you, not as a fan but a business, invest your money on them?

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