THINFS - Video Reactions

so true...just watch the damn thing instead of making 3 alternative theories about sth you havent seen...its 3,30 mins.

i dont get why the original thread was closed...why did this happen??

I don't understand why either. Never know a forum close so many threads. I really enjoyed that thread, kept it.open in my tabs so I was following everything.

I really like this video. Honestly, I don't even remember the more recent videos, so I guess I really can't compare them, but this one looks like thought and effort was put into it. I like the images of the tree roots and particularly the house pic at the end.

And I like that Jon and the rest of the guys look like they are enjoying themselves.

It is a bit sad seeing Phil X in the Richie role, but whether I like it or not, Richie is gone and someone had to fill the void. At least they were able to keep Phil X and didn't end up filling the spot with someone completely new. And he fits in well. And looks like he's happy to be there. (Just checked his age on Wiki. Didn't realize he's 50. I thought he was younger)

Richie left. Accept it. He said no, and walked. You have to get out of that well and stop going after Jon for not using him as a writer. Stop going after Jon for not doing "the real thing". Also you have qualms about song writers being paid now like Jon invented that industry? The songs he's written with Dave have never been the one people here talk about, at least with Billy Falcon people are favorably mentioned. No one is going nuts for Unbreakable.

How ironic is it that the one giving an opinion of something she hasn't seen is also the one who has single-handedly written the most words in this thread.

No one gives a crap what your three possible scenarios are Jackie. We've seen the video. We know the real outcome.

In These Arms

Fair, In these Arms is absolutely the exception. But you've also got a bunch of songs like I don't want to fall to the fire and Love Lies. Would people rather Jon use someone in the band for the sake of being a band instead of using other co-writers? I just don't get that logic, because one of the chief cowriters in the band leaves it doesn't mean someone else moves up in the ranks. Talent doesn't work like that.

Jackie, because you stated that you're not in a good place, I'll back off a little...

Without turning this into a Richie discussion, just understand the big picture... Yes, we don't know the full story so we really can't choose sides when it comes to blame... Did Jon overwork Richie? Did Jon F Up Richie's 3rd solo project? Maybe!!! However, and this is a big However, Richie should have finished the tour and then left the band. These guys take off months between legs and there was what, 6 months left? After 30 years, Richie could have gotten through it...

If it wasn't for Phil, Richie could have really f-ed up that tour. Not just Jon but everyone else involved too. It was a selfish move and he is the one who left!!! It's not like he called Jon begging to come back and Jon said 'no'. He's still doing his thing, whatever that may be at this point...

Back on topic, Jon is making the best logical moves possible. Phil is no more a member than Hugh at this point... Phil only played on 4 songs, he hasn't written any of them, he's in the back of that picture with Hugh. Is he a member but not an official member? Who Cares!!! Your Bass Player and Lead Guitarist hold two different ranks... We are also talking about a 20 year gap between Alec and Richie leaving so it's a different band and a different Jon...

It would look completely ridiculous for the video to have just Jon, Tico, and Dave... And it can't be just Jon because that would be even worse... This is what it is. There is no smoke of mirrors going on here... Phil looks cool, so throw him in the video... Why not!!!

What would you do different at this point in the game if your were Jon? I bet we can dismiss all your ideas because IMO, Jon handled it perfectly from a fan point of view, with the other band members point of view, and his own point of view!!!

From 1992, yeah.

Versus:
Say It Isn't So
Just Older
Undivided
Bounce
Last Man Standing
Superman Tonight
Love's The Only Rule
That's What The Water Made Me
Beautiful World
Teardrop To The Sea
Who Would You Die For
Fingerprints

Agreeing with RD on this matter. 30 plus years in is a huge difference from Alec leaving 8 years in. Phil and Hugh are on equal fields right now except Hugh plays on all the songs. I never understood the hubbub about being an official member, is the difference being in more promo photos? Co-writing songs? Does Hugh even write?

Watching the video the only parts I saw that could be taken as disrespectful is Jon doing his pointing at Phil during the guitar solo. That being said if anyone thinks it's a slam on Richie or acting like he was never there....Jon does the same moves at his solo shows to whomever is playing the guitar solo. Its his shtick and not a Richie specific move.