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Old 08-15-2016, 05:43 PM
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There used to be times when you didn't have to apply vocal removers to distinguish who sang what and what was being played.
Yes, that. Exactly. Maybe that's what I dont like in this and the last singles (and most of their songs since TC tbh), it looks almost like a noise pollution, too much happening at the same time and you can barely distinguish voices and instruments. I like clean music, a clear sound where you can enjoy each layer.
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Yes, that. Exactly. Maybe that's what I dont like in this and the last singles (and most of their songs since TC tbh), it looks almost like a noise pollution, too much happening at the same time and you can barely distinguish voices and instruments. I like clean music, a clear sound where you can enjoy each layer.
Noise pollution actually is quite fitting here. It's not just shanks, Luke Ebbin's production in terms of clarity of each instrument wasn't much greater either. But Shanks has driven this wall of sound into new heights. I'm aware of the fact that other albums from different artists suffer under similar problems.

About thickening the sound: Bob Rock used extra tracks and small appliances here and there as well, but with good headphones (at least on the original series of the album) you could hear everything quite well and clear. Same goes for the These Days. The sound doesn't sound too thin for me, yet I can hear every instrument in the mix.
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Btw, Phil X confirming on twitter what we all already knew - he didn't play the solo on this song. Unfortunately I have no idea how to share links to tweets, but hey, it's out there
He also confirmed his guitar is a FRAMUS model not a Gibson

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@R_J_Bull thx but actually John Shanks did the solo on this one. that guit is a Framus XG. haha... get it? X....G. @WarwickFramus
https://twitter.com/TheRealPhilX/sta...04579358220288

What's really funny is to see & hear so many self-proclaimed music experts* asserting it's PhilX playing the solo when they have no clue (ears).



* 1 example just for fun. Enjoy!
https://youtu.be/HdeHZn4F_Io?t=3m47s
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He also confirmed his guitar is a FRAMUS model not a Gibson



https://twitter.com/TheRealPhilX/sta...04579358220288

What's really funny is to see & hear so many self-proclaimed music experts* asserting it's PhilX playing the solo when they have no clue (ears).



* 1 example just for fun. Enjoy!
https://youtu.be/HdeHZn4F_Io?t=3m47s
"Definitely Phil X" ... Okaaaaay!

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Thank you for helping me out. If I knew it could be that simple
You're welcome!

FYI. You can also take a screenshot but unfortunately the settings of this board don't allow you to upload pics directly from your hard disk, you need to upload it on another site first and then post the URL, which is a drag.

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Noise pollution actually is quite fitting here. It's not just shanks, Luke Ebbin's production in terms of clarity of each instrument wasn't much greater either. But Shanks has driven this wall of sound into new heights. I'm aware of the fact that other albums from different artists suffer under similar problems.
It seems that this big sound appeared when listening to MP3 instead of CDs and vinyls became the new way of listening to music.
"Back to mono!" Phil Spector.
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Not spoke half as much about the new single as I'd have liked too as I wanted to give it a good few listens before I make up my mind on it.

On first listen, I liked it. I thought it was very catchy and I also thought that it was the first single I expected. When I heard the song title, I was trying to imagine how it would go and the way Jon sings 'This House Is Not For Sale' is exactly what I imagined.

A few days on and about 20-30 listens on and I still like it. I certainly don't love it but I do really like it. The video has made me like it even more, I must admit. Jon in the video looks like he is happy to be back. He has probably got a huge weight lifted from his shoulders now after letting everything out (hopefully) on the new album.

Is it the first single that I wanted? Yes & no. Potentially, if it had/has enough promotion, it could do well in the charts (it won't but with promotion and all that, then it could have) and I think it would be something a lot of casuals would enjoy.

On the other hand, I proper wanted an aggressive song from Jon. It's great to see him looking happy and all that but I wanted him to be angry/passionate on the first single we hear for this album. I knew that was never going to happen, though.

Lyrically, is it a masterpiece? No. I don't think it is half as bad as people are making out, though. The only part I do cringe at is the 'no wrecking ball can knock it down' part. I cringed the first time I heard that and I still do today.

I was speaking to a guy on twitter today who visits this page and he made some good comments. He said that even though the lyrics aren't great, take some songs from the 80's and 90's (some of 'I'll Sleep When I'm Dead' was the song he mentioned in particular) and imagine the band released that now. Is it a great song? Definitely not. Is it a good song? Yes. Is it lyrically a great song? Not really. But imagine the band released that song now. They'd get slaughtered on here. Sure a fair amount of us would like it, but the times have changed and so has the bands sound.

Another point is how people say 'it's the same old' - Again, does that make it a bad song? No! Just because it sounds like a bunch of other songs merged into one doesn't make it a bad song. You take the song for how it sounds. It's catchy, it's fun and it could potentially be decent live. I agree that it isn't what a lot of us wanted, I really do but to say it's not a good song because of that does baffle me.

Look, we have probably another 11 songs to listen too in just over 12 months and I don't think that THINFS is how the rest of the album will sound, really. It's a good first single to release as it sounds good on the radio but I am really hoping we get a strong album!
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OK guys not sure if you are still into that ASCAP stuff ..

Some of the titles which we previously found on APRA are now added to the ASCAP + they are now visible in the Jon's repertoire as well as those which previously could only be found if one searched by performer ..

So the following titles are new: "Knockout" and "Come on up to our house".

The titles which we found before:

Born again tomorrow
Goodnight NY
Labor of Love
This house is not for sale
Reunion
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There's a song I've never noticed called "Never Stop me" with co-writers "FUHRMAN DEREK
JOVI JON BON NS 207516587
KULCHINSKY RYAN STAR BMI 358816817
WATTENBERG GREGG STEVEN
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I feel that this album is going to be worse than Burning Bridges.

I think that they died after have a nice day.

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There's a song I've never noticed called "Never Stop me" with co-writers "FUHRMAN DEREK
JOVI JON BON NS 207516587
KULCHINSKY RYAN STAR BMI 358816817
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It was released two years ago.
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