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The conspiracy theories are abundant. I was really flustered and tired Monday nights, so I was joining in on them, too. But now it's just ridiculous. We know nothing. So as of now, he has NOT quit the band, he is NOT in rehab, he is NOT in the hospital with a heart attack, or whatever the hell else is in this thread that I don't have the time or care to sift through. Oh, and this is NOT Jon's fault in any way. Shit happens. Obviously, whatever the reason may be, it happened at a lousy time. But I think Richie (and Jon and the band, for that matter) are smart enough to know that a world tour isn't just something that you can skimp out on. The call was made. No amount of bitching will bring Richie back on this leg, I believe, so just let it happen. As a sidenote, some of these people claiming that they'll sell their tickets if Richie isn't in Europe are full of it, in my opinion. Quote:
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It is a personal matter. Unlike Jon, he is just choosing to be a present father. If you would step back and realize that these are people with families, you might be able to see that Richie is not evil. Do you think Jon would want to be out on the road if Stephanie had OD'd while he was on tour? Everyone's just blaming Jon because the management HE formed hardly gave any statement, TMZ received mass amounts of tweets and they decided to post a story. When you don't give any type of story and someone else offers a substantial report, it becomes reality and truth. |
Really? Something happens in Richie's personal life, causing him to miss a few shows, and now this board is Jon vs. Richie?
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If its to do with his daughter or ex-wife, I applaud him for putting that first and I do know if what happened with Stephanie, happened while the band was on the road, Jon would have been gone too. Not my beef at all. Its mainly this finger pointing that goes on and the finger never gets pointed to Mr Sambora. |
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I have come to realise I love AOTL!! :-) "You can only get so high, then you gotta come down" |
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I should add: I think finger-pointing is justified toward both of them if the TMZ article paints a correct picture of their relationship. |
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The owner of Slane seems to think Richie will be back by then http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/en...-29173202.html
"The latest news that I have is that he will be back for the summer" Perhaps he is just trying to protect his revenue but is potentially a good sign. |
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Some are saying they won't go. You can't make a generalization about people then not back it up. Are Europeans such die hards that they'll support the band no matter what, or won't go to the shows if Richie's not there? And if it's neither, then stop yanking on the Americans for what they decide to do. Sorry man - I'm sick of you shitting on Americans every chance you get. |
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He inspires loyalty! We really should consider that, I mean there are a million bands that have crashed an burned when the financial motives would have made it better to stay. For some reason Jon has a pile of people working for him who stick around for years, the ones that do leave rarely speak of anything bad. Are there examples of him being a dick? Or course, no one could go thirty years in the limelight without it and every person has a side to them that is not great, and powerful people can be ruthless. However, for the most part these guys are massively loyal to him, and it is not because he pays them. And I am not a Jon can do no wrong, in terms of the Bon Jovi machine he does much wrong, as does Richie for that matter, but we simply do not know them so any opinion is just that. He could be a dick, he may be a great guy but there are loads of people here talking as a matter of fact. |
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2. What on earth are you talking about? Lousy arguments? Positive fan reviews are proof that it's shit? Ok, YOU don't like AOTL, it's not an opinion that seems to be common here, if you want to convince people to agree with YOU, construct a decent argument. I've seen some nonsensical posts on here before, but congratulations, you've taken it to a new level. If the Internet was a person, it would be on its fourth Ben & Jerry's of the day, wondering where it all went wrong. |
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Can we please go back to the Richie being a Secret agent and got called from the CIA theory?
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I think it needs to be said and remembered that Richie remains a recovering substance abuser, plus whatever residual grief he may be dealing with. IN ADDITION to whatever has come up, he's got to take care of himself as a father and man first, rock star second. To quote a famous eccentric doctor, if Richie were to tour, "THE CONSEQUENCES COULD BE DISATROUS!!!!!!!1111"
Ill miss him in Denver though :/ |
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Also, why everybody keep saying that its Jon's fault that Richie is not there? It's Tico's fault. |
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Shows that are confirmed without Richie:
April 5 - Winnipeg April 7 - St. Paul April 8 - Omaha April 10 - Austin April 11 - Dallas April 13 - Kansas April 14 - Des Moines April 16 - Denver So, Richie's comeback probably will be at Salt Lake, april 17. |
Anything but Europeans are the best fans. Way too entitled / high and mighty as if their money or presence is better then the next persons. Get real.
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Where did you find that information Jon?
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A official video by Phill X Sponsor: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1n8Ij...ure=youtu.be&a |
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Sorry to generalise but they could stick a cardboard cut out of Richie up there for the US shows and most wouldn't notice, as long as Jon was shakin his ass. I do think there would be a mini backlash were they to come to Europe without Richie. Tickers have hardly been selling that well anyway, a JBJ and buddies tour would do nothing to shift more last minute tickets. |
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Anyway it's been really entertaining reading all the conspiracy theories in the last couple days, made me laugh a lot. |
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I think its hilarious that Europeans think that a huge protest would happen if everyone found out richie wasn't there. come on, the core fanbase also cares and that's aboot it. Jon could tour under the name "bon jovi" without richie and no one would bat an eyelid.
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No, not no one.
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Bon Jovi management are handling the issue like a bunch of amateurs. The lack of a clear statement provides the ground for massive speculation that is starting to affect the bands image.
German media are now saying Sambora has left for the entire tour. This will not help (already slow) sales. |
95% of people going to shows are there to see Jon and nothing but. anyone thinking otherwise is delusional.
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You don't follow the band, only the man. You are in your right to express it, fangirl. But I am also in my right. For me, Bon Jovi are like The Beatles. Without Lennnon, not The Beatles. Guns N Roses without Slash, not Guns N Roses. Bon Jovi without Sambora, not Bon Jovi. In my opinion. |
Quick update
Looks like several uploads on Youtube this morning are blaming all of this on the Masons.
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Aloha !
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The thing is though, people over here would realize and hear Richie's not there. They'd hear its not quite the same. In North America, and especially the U.S.A., the average Bon Jovi fan has not the faintest idea that it's a band not a lead singer with a good band. Bon Jovi can only get away with such things in front of a relatively new crowd like in Eastern Europe, but when it comes to the regular markets like Germany and the U.K. most casuals know they're going to see Bon Jovi, and not Jon Bon and the Jovi's. It's still odd to me how a die hard on Jovitalk feels he's being insulted when talking about how lame an American crowd is compared to European fans, yet most European fans are quite aware of how much more hardcore a South American crowd is and won't be offended at all. Is that pointless American patriotism or just sheer stupidity? Salaam Aleikum, Sebastiaan |
As far as audiences go: South American fans seem like the most passionate. Same goes perhaps for fans from southern Europe.
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