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Captain_jovi 08-30-2006 03:35 AM
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Originally Posted by yomamasofat
I am as disappointed of you are with DL, but I think there are 2 reasons to it:

1. They don't get as much support from the label as Bon Jovi, so their material doesn't hit the radio as well. If their material doesn't get played in the radio, how would the audience know about it? In all honesty, one of the major reasons why BJ can afford all those stadium shows and play their new shit is because they're the only '80s rock band' who still get major push. Good material can only carry you so far, label support and promotion play a major help.

2. They don't seem to be very proud about playing the new shit (or stuff from their debut album like Wasted). They want mad audience reaction and they don't like it if they don't get cheered like when they play Sugar or Photograph. Well, if you don't get label/radio support, how else are you going to introduce your new shit to the masses?

I'm never a fan of the double bill DL/Bryan Adams or DL/Journey. Now I love Bryan Adams and Journey but you put a band with 10 albums in a double bill, you get a 80-90 minute set, and that's pretty much leaves not much time for deep album cuts. The last decent DL concert was during X tour and they played 4 songs off X (which is a good amount - getting 8 tracks from your new album, especially if your album is not on Hysteria or New Jersey level, is too ****ing much).
4 from X? Which 4? I know Now, You're so beautiful got decent play...what were the other 2? I'd guess long long way to go and...Everyday?

yomamasofat 08-30-2006 03:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Captain_jovi
4 from X? Which 4? I know Now, You're so beautiful got decent play...what were the other 2? I'd guess long long way to go and...Everyday?
Now (turd), You're So Beautiful (best track in X), Four Letter Word (eh), Long Long Way To Go (I love this song but live, it made me want to headbang - they should've reworked it to acoustic).

By the end of the tour, only Now and FLW survived.

Captain_jovi 08-30-2006 03:50 AM
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Originally Posted by yomamasofat
Now (turd), You're So Beautiful (best track in X), Four Letter Word (eh), Long Long Way To Go (I love this song but live, it made me want to headbang - they should've reworked it to acoustic).

By the end of the tour, only Now and FLW survived.
Four Letter word! That's the one I was forgetting, thanks.

Dave 1986 08-30-2006 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by danfan
What year was Destination Anywhere, 96 or 97? That's one of the shittiest sounding albums I've ever heard. Great album - Shit quality.
1997, and yeah I know what you mean, but I think it was just ment to sound like that. Very gritty and "cold" sounding, but thats just how the album was produced, not on how good recording technology was back then.

danfan 08-30-2006 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by david2k86
1997, and yeah I know what you mean, but I think it was just ment to sound like that. Very gritty and "cold" sounding, but thats just how the album was produced, not on how good recording technology was back then.
I figured as much, but wasn't sure. I'd still be curious to hear it remastered though. Different, but definitely a great album.

Stut 08-30-2006 04:38 PM
Cdwow.com is selling it for £10.99, that´s the cheapest I´ve seen. And with £2 voucher it´s even more cheaper. Only about 13€. Not bad for two cd´s. Play.com is selling it for £12.99.

Dave 1986 10-18-2006 07:40 PM
My CD arived yesterday. It was great to hear the album digitally remastered, and the b-sides have been as well by the sounds of it! I've already heard Tear It Down (original version) and the tracks that appear on Retro Active are are slightly different but still a good listen. The live stuff is great aswell. And the whole set come in a great little digipack. I hope they do this with some of their other albums.

Bleeding Purist 10-26-2006 01:16 PM
I can't even find a copy in Southern California. Tower Records is going out of business so they aren't getting new stock in. Target didn't have it and Best Buy doesn't have it. I haven't checked Wal Mart and I'd like to avoid it if I can (but it looks like I'll be buying KISSology Vol. 1 from there since they have the bonus DVD that I want the most.)

Anyway, looking forward to hearing all of this remastered. I'm still waiting for the complaints of how some songs are "repeating" from Retroactive..or rather whether or not these complaints are still holding water after hearing the tracks now that the album is out. (I just want to gloat a bit.) So far, one person is validating what I was saying before.

danfan 10-26-2006 11:55 PM
I struck out at Target, Best Buy and Circuit City. One place had it, but I'm not paying $27.99 for it.

yomamasofat 10-27-2006 02:32 AM
If anyone can find it for less than 20 bucks let me know. I'm not paying 28 bucks for it.

Thanks.

KOSSOF 10-27-2006 09:11 AM
PYROMANIA kicks HYSTERIA's ass:onfire:

Dave 1986 10-27-2006 05:09 PM
I'd love it if they did a deluxe edition of Pyromania! Although 7of the 10 tracks were remastered for the Best Of but I'd love to hear live tracks from that era. Wishful thinking would be Slang: Deluxe Edition.

Iceman 10-27-2006 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by yomamasofat (Post 700837)
If anyone can find it for less than 20 bucks let me know. I'm not paying 28 bucks for it.

Thanks.
www.play.com sells it for about $20.

Ice

Stut 10-28-2006 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by yomamasofat (Post 700837)
If anyone can find it for less than 20 bucks let me know. I'm not paying 28 bucks for it.
Cd-wow.us is selling it for $19.95. Free delivery.

Bleeding Purist 11-02-2006 01:33 PM
I finally picked up my copy this week. I can't find who said it, but someone mentioned Animal (Extended Remix) is lacking the false ending. I'm finding that is true. I think whoever did the remastering ****ed up somehow. The length of the gap between the body of the song and the false ending was longer than it was on the album version. So maybe it was missed because of this. On one hand..I'm a bit annoyed as a purist. On the other hand...it was stupid to have that extra length of silence in the original release of this mix. I just doubt they consciously made that decision.

Dave 1986 11-02-2006 08:25 PM
Just off the topic, I remember reading somewhere that Joe Elliott said in an interview that they mite release the FULL Don Valley 1993 concert on DVD. I'd much rather a more recent tour from Yeah! or X or even a 1996/1999 gig.

yomamasofat 11-04-2006 02:42 AM
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Originally Posted by david2k86 (Post 702789)
Just off the topic, I remember reading somewhere that Joe Elliott said in an interview that they mite release the FULL Don Valley 1993 concert on DVD. I'd much rather a more recent tour from Yeah! or X or even a 1996/1999 gig.
That's a good gig but we got like 2/3 of the show in Video Archives/Vault DVD right?

The setlist from X tour is excellent. Granted the album was horrible but they pull out shit from the entire first half of High N Dry, and all albums were represented (including OTTN with Wasted and Slang with the title track).

I have a DVD boot of a 1999 show in Japan. Excellent.

Captain_jovi 11-04-2006 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by yomamasofat (Post 703199)
That's a good gig but we got like 2/3 of the show in Video Archives/Vault DVD right?

The setlist from X tour is excellent. Granted the album was horrible but they pull out shit from the entire first half of High N Dry, and all albums were represented (including OTTN with Wasted and Slang with the title track).

I have a DVD boot of a 1999 show in Japan. Excellent.
That was a killer show.

Bleeding Purist 11-04-2006 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Captain_jovi (Post 703273)
That was a killer show.
the performance of Paper Sun from that show always gives me chills.

Iceman 11-05-2006 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Bleeding Purist (Post 703293)
the performance of Paper Sun from that show always gives me chills.
Damn you people, now I wanna see that show as well. Too bad I don't have it! :mad:

Ice

yomamasofat 11-08-2006 05:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Iceman (Post 703434)
Damn you people, now I wanna see that show as well. Too bad I don't have it! :mad:

Ice
if u can torrent, i can tell u where to get it.

Iceman 11-08-2006 07:59 AM
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Originally Posted by yomamasofat (Post 704504)
if u can torrent, i can tell u where to get it.
You know I can. :)

Ice

yomamasofat 11-09-2006 01:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Iceman (Post 704522)
You know I can. :)

Ice
check your PM.

Spikeout 11-09-2006 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Bleeding Purist (Post 703293)
the performance of Paper Sun from that show always gives me chills.
Paper Sun live, would love to hear that, the song is simply masterful, pitty it was on a sh*t album.

Dave 1986 11-09-2006 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Spikeout (Post 704841)
Paper Sun live, would love to hear that, the song is simply masterful, pitty it was on a sh*t album.
Euphoria rocks! :p

Iceman 11-10-2006 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by david2k86 (Post 704861)
Euphoria rocks! :p
Yep. Best album post-Hysteria.

Ice

Dave 1986 11-10-2006 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Iceman (Post 704996)
Yep. Best album post-Hysteria.

Ice
Yea, that and Slang. They have put out some quality stuff since Hysteria.

Spikeout 11-11-2006 06:48 PM
The writing was atrocious on Euphoria, All Night is worse than any boyband song ever, Demoltion Man is female catering rubbish, Back In Your Face just sounds unbelievably childish for a Lep song, Promises is musically good but lyrically laughable. Disintegrate is a sub standard instrumental, Goodbye, Its Only Love and Guilty are decent, possibly pretty good but we've heard them type of songs a million times before and while there is something cool about the melody and chorus of 21st Century Sha la la la Girl its still pretty stupid. Then we have the four killer tracks in Paper Sun, Day After Day, To Be Alive and Kings Of Oblivion. Worst album in their career by a long shot.

Iceman 11-12-2006 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Spikeout (Post 705422)
The writing was atrocious on Euphoria, All Night is worse than any boyband song ever, Demoltion Man is female catering rubbish, Back In Your Face just sounds unbelievably childish for a Lep song, Promises is musically good but lyrically laughable. Disintegrate is a sub standard instrumental, Goodbye, Its Only Love and Guilty are decent, possibly pretty good but we've heard them type of songs a million times before and while there is something cool about the melody and chorus of 21st Century Sha la la la Girl its still pretty stupid. Then we have the four killer tracks in Paper Sun, Day After Day, To Be Alive and Kings Of Oblivion. Worst album in their career by a long shot.

Opinions. THe four tracks you listed as the best are worst on the album. And the Leps have made worse albums, X or Adrenalize, anyone?

Ice

Spikeout 11-12-2006 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Iceman (Post 705526)
Opinions. THe four tracks you listed as the best are worst on the album. And the Leps have made worse albums, X or Adrenalize, anyone?

Ice
You think they are the worst on the album, that is unreal to me. They have superb guitar work, great lyrics and the way Joe deliver's each one of them is fantastic not to mention the awesome backing vocals. X had some crap on it, very weak writing destroyed it from being anything above good, still there is some great little pop songs and a few good ballads on there, plus Scar, Cry and Now are all great rock songs. Kiss The Day is a superb bonus song, even when you look at the worst songs their only average compaired to the worst on Euphoria (not including the pure crap that is Girl Like You).

Adrenalize was a decent enough album, like I said about X the worst songs aren't anywhere near as bad as the tripe on Euphoria. Think you need to re-listen to Euphoria again and hear it for what it mostly is.

Dave 1986 11-12-2006 05:15 PM
If you say Adrenalize had decent lyrics, how do you justify "Lets get lets get lets get rocked!!!"? And Make Love Like A Man, how can you slag off All Night when this song is in existance. Alright, Euphoria doesn't display Def Leppards potential in terms of lyrics, but lets face it, neither did Hysteria, and although it's not my favourite album, it's still awesome.

You do have to take into account the background behind Euphoria. The band wanted to produce a Def Leppard album like a greatest hist record minus the actual "hits" if you will. If the lyrics sound dumb and stupid to you, thats probably cause they were MEANT to be. The reason I slag off Adrenalize is because of, again, the time it was released, 1992 when grundge had settled in and Leppard were still riding on the success of Hysteria pretty much. I know I was just a kid back then and didnt really pay attention to music, but even I can see the contrast between a song like Let's Get Rocked and Smells Like Teen Spirit.

Euphoria was an album that did what it set out to do IMO, which was simply to produce fun, deep and meaningless, tounge-in-cheek pop/rock. OK I find it hard to excuse All Night, but it's still a very enjoyable record.

Iceman 11-12-2006 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Spikeout (Post 705538)
X had some crap on it, very weak writing destroyed it from being anything above good, still there is some great little pop songs and a few good ballads on there, plus Scar, Cry and Now are all great rock songs.
Again, you listed the worst songs on the album. I like Def Leppard when they deliver no-nonsense, pure pop-rock, like they do like no one else. Like Hysteria, or Euphoria. I don't like it when they try to be serious, like on the songs you mention. On Slang it worked, after that, not so much. They should stick to what they do best.

Euphoria is great. X isn't.

Ice

Spikeout 11-12-2006 10:47 PM
I never said anything about Adrenalize having decent writing, said it was a decent album. What seperates Adrenalize from Euphoria is the tone and delivery of the songs, Euphoria could have been released by the Backstreet Boys the lyrics are that predictable/sappy and Joe doesn't help in his vocal delivery. X just has a lot better tracks overall, more consistent. I guess I am floored by some people's opinion's on Euphoria and Ice I am astounded you basically like the pop rock and ballads on Euphoria and X compaired to the rock songs which are better in every department IMO.

Javier 11-13-2006 05:24 AM
Nah, DL have never been a favorite of mine when it comes to lyrics, but hey, I don't care. I have to admit, when I forst heard Euphoria I couldn't help but be a bit put off because of them rehashinmg their hits and going back to their old sound. (Keep in mind that I listened to this record post bon jovi's crush where I was proud that the 80's bands I liked were making modern succesfull music while retaining the core of what they are).
But when I listen to it now, I just think what a stupid thought that was, when you take the album for what it is it's one of their best, and the songs ROCK live, is it rehash??
Well a lot of it is, but who the **** cares it rocks!!!
It's DL how we know and love 'em.

Stut 02-25-2009 06:55 AM
According to this looks like there will be deluxe editions of Pyromania and Adrenalize as well. Pyromania era b-sides were just album tracks so I don´t know what will be on the second disc (if they even do it the same way as they did with Hysteria) but hopefully they add all the b-sides from Adrenalize era, although I´m missing only few songs, but it would be nice have them all on one disc.

Bleeding Purist 02-25-2009 07:15 AM
I've been waiting for the Pyromania deluxe edition since they did Hysteria. I too, wonder what the second disc will have. The only reason I give a shit at all about the Adrenalize edition are the B sides. I'd rather they release High n Dry. That and Pyromania are sorely in need of remastering.

Dave 1986 02-25-2009 06:03 PM
It's been mentioned on DefLeppard.com
https://web.archive.org/web/20090306...pard.com/news/

No release dates, no tracklists or any real details as of yet, but you can guess it'll be near enough similar to the Hysteria Deluxe Edition.

With Pyro', we may get a live album or something on the 2nd disc or, dare I say it, unheard demos not even the diest hardest fan would even know of.

Adrenalize, however, alot of it's b-sides were re-recorded/tweaked for Retro Active so there's probably not gona be anything new there.

Nice bit of news though. These remasters are WAY overdue IMO.

Wishful thinking would be Slang: Deluxe Edition. :D

Goldsausage 02-25-2009 10:26 PM
High 'N' Dry and Pyromania are two of my all time favourite albums so this is gonna rock :D

And hopefully they'll master it a little bit louder because damn those two records are quiet.

Dave 1986 02-26-2009 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Goldsausage II (Post 908907)
High 'N' Dry and Pyromania are two of my all time favourite albums so this is gonna rock :D

And hopefully they'll master it a little bit louder because damn those two records are quiet.
They normally do when remastering older albums like these. They did so with Hysteria and other remasters such as Poisons first 3 albums. The original Open Up And Say Aahh had to be the quietest rock album I'd ever heard.

BonJovi1988-1992Mark 02-28-2009 08:09 PM
Wow!! Cant wait for these Re-Master versions,Maybe the Adrenalize 1 might have some live stuff from the 7-day weekend tour in -92/93

or
Maybe some hidden gems featuring Steve Clark??But like Dave said i'd luv for Slang to be done.

Do you guys think Euphoria needs a re-master??


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