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Denmad 09-18-2015 10:49 PM

For the first time in my life I don't regret that some Jovi stuff will not be released. That's pretty good info ;)

https://scontent.fwaw3-1.fna.fbcdn.n...a7&oe=569C5FDC

But... what was he doing there with Shanks?

Possibly they worked on "Take Back the Night" ;)

Rdkopper 09-18-2015 10:52 PM

I'm not familiar with this guy or anything he's ever done. As a matter of fact, I've never even heard his name until this thread... but from the small amount of material I've heard, it doesn't sound like a Jon Bon Jovi fit at all.

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Javier 09-18-2015 11:08 PM

It does seem like it is indeed a label thing. Similar to what prevented the Keith Urban collaboration on Who says from being released....

Rdkopper 09-18-2015 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Javier (Post 1194958)
It does seem like it is indeed a label thing. Similar to what prevented the Keith Urban collaboration on Who says from being released....

Do you know this for a fact or this just a guess?

I feel like people are starting to head into this direction of believing that an artist on one label can't sing with an artist on a different one... which is totally false.

There are stipulations and it is ethically valued to promote within but there are plenty of examples of artists crossing labels.

ezearis 09-19-2015 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by BJ_AUT (Post 1194943)
Jon won't be involved in the new album... According to https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stories_(Avicii_album)) Zak Abel will sing "Ten More Days" :(

This really sucks, I was excited about this [emoji20].

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rocknation 09-19-2015 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Rdkopper (Post 1194959)
Do you know this for a fact or this just a guess?

I feel like people are starting to head into this direction of believing that an artist on one label can't sing with an artist on a different one... which is totally false....

Between music videos becoming a genre and the corporatism of the music business, I think labels are stricter about it now.

Javier 09-19-2015 02:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Rdkopper (Post 1194959)
Do you know this for a fact or this just a guess?

I feel like people are starting to head into this direction of believing that an artist on one label can't sing with an artist on a different one... which is totally false.

There are stipulations and it is ethically valued to promote within but there are plenty of examples of artists crossing labels.

Nah, I thought the word seems would clarify the fact that when it comes to concrete info I really don't know anything. Just what I've read when I search for it on google gives that impression but it could be just about anything else. Avicii said last time that the song was near done, Jon could just have never gone around to finishing it, got really fed up with recording a song a syllable at a time or whatever but if something is "near done" it really sounds like it would be something behind the scenes preventing the collaboration to happen. But again, since no one knows anything all we really can do is speculate.

Bounce7800 09-19-2015 10:50 AM

It would be a shame if this didn't materialise. Whether it sounded good to us or terrible, it would have been great promotion to reach out to the contemporary young audience.

Rather that than have a dance act bastardise a Jovi classic.

Captain_jovi 09-19-2015 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Rdkopper (Post 1194959)
Do you know this for a fact or this just a guess?

I feel like people are starting to head into this direction of believing that an artist on one label can't sing with an artist on a different one... which is totally false.

There are stipulations and it is ethically valued to promote within but there are plenty of examples of artists crossing labels.

No, that's a fact about Who Says.

Yeah, artists can sing on other label artist's songs but the label has to okay the release. If they have their own release coming up the label might say no, or many other reasons but you're not quite right on this one.

Rdkopper 09-19-2015 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain_jovi (Post 1195002)
No, that's a fact about Who Says.

I never heard the story that the label wouldn't allow it because Keith is on a different one? So it must have been Keith's Label, right? Please expand on this 'fact'

I just heard the story about their vocal similarities. And when you compare the 2, Jennifer's version makes more sense.

Captain_jovi 09-19-2015 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Rdkopper (Post 1195004)
I never heard the story that the label wouldn't allow it because Keith is on a different one? So it must have been Keith's Label, right? Please expand on this 'fact'

I just heard the story about their vocal similarities. And when you compare the 2, Jennifer's version makes more sense.

It was something Obie said off-hand, not sure if it was a chat or to a fan. I know Becky knows the story way better than I do. I just know you absolutely need label involvement to release a song. Putting it on an album, from what I've gathered, is okay but releasing it to radio is where it gets dicey.

It's my faith 09-19-2015 06:36 PM

May I ask something? The only source on the JBJ exclusion from the single is that wikipedia page? If yes, maybe we should wait until a more reliable article surfaces.

rolo_tomachi 09-19-2015 07:19 PM

Ohh shit. I wanted to hear this song with JBJ, it would have been perfect to complement it with Burning Bridges. :mad:


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Originally Posted by It's my faith (Post 1195015)
May I ask something? The only source on the JBJ exclusion from the single is that wikipedia page? If yes, maybe we should wait until a more reliable article surfaces.

I hope you are right.
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rolo_tomachi 09-27-2015 06:04 PM

Jon Bon Jovi no sing on Avicii Album. I just listen to samples of the album and not Jon.

rocknation 09-27-2015 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by rolo_tomachi (Post 1195755)
Jon Bon Jovi no sing on Avicii Album. I just listen to samples of the album and not Jon.

It may have something to do with their longer being on the same label: I don't think you should expect to hear Jon collaborating with anyone on Universal.

Becky 09-27-2015 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain_jovi (Post 1195006)
It was something Obie said off-hand, not sure if it was a chat or to a fan. I know Becky knows the story way better than I do. I just know you absolutely need label involvement to release a song. Putting it on an album, from what I've gathered, is okay but releasing it to radio is where it gets dicey.

It was nothing personal between Jon and Keith--they have no qualms with each other; but Keith's label wanted it to be on Keith's album too and that wasn't going to happen. Jon has very high respect for Keith as an artist, musician, and performer. He even said that he thought that concert bill featuring Bon Jovi and Keith would be a good draw (radio interview somewhere on my I pod).

But when it comes down to it, their voices really do sound so much alike in the song, that it's hard for most casual listeners to tell who's who.

ezearis 09-27-2015 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by rocknation (Post 1195758)
It may have something to do with their longer being on the same label: I don't think you should expect to hear Jon collaborating with anyone on Universal.

But Chris Martin is on that record and he's on Warner, for example. It's weird.

It's my faith 09-27-2015 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by ezearis (Post 1195763)
But Chris Martin is on that record and he's on Warner, for example. It's weird.

Yes, but Jon wrote and released the burning bridges song. It was a bad breakup with his last label.

Rdkopper 09-28-2015 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by It's my faith (Post 1195764)
Yes, but Jon wrote and released the burning bridges song. It was a bad breakup with his last label.

It has nothing to do with his label... it's all about what's going to sell and what works best for the song and that's it. You think Jon is the first artist to have a feud with his label? No. How many times have you heard that so and so was supposed to be the lead actor in a movie but they pick someone else instead because of X... Same with this situation.

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IML88 09-28-2015 10:53 AM

Or, do we think the label listened to the finished article and felt the song would be stronger with a better vocalist, and that outweighed the publicity of having an aging rock star feature on the track?

I've not heard the track but his usual fodder tends to feature powerful (yet generic) vocals. Perhaps everyone felt the song lost impact with the softer brand of vocal Jon brings to the table these days.

Javier 09-28-2015 01:36 PM

It's just, had Jon said anything about this supposed collaboration? It all leads me to believe that he didn't even want to be part of the whole thing. I remember that interview in Vancouver where a reporter addressed the anger behind 'we don't run' he said something along the lines of "well I've been at this a long time and when some executives come to me and goes you need this and this and that to be successful, I don't think so". But also it could be Avicci's decision or even a mutual one where they both agreed that it didn't work....

Old Joysey 09-30-2015 11:37 PM

Now it's official: no collaboration.

Avicii - Ten More Days
https://youtu.be/21hoWeMro6Y

Rdkopper 10-01-2015 12:14 AM

Good. Can we please delete this topic now?

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SuperBrad 10-01-2015 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Old Joysey (Post 1196069)
Now it's official: no collaboration.

Avicii - Ten More Days
https://youtu.be/21hoWeMro6Y

Kinda glad cause its a bloody boring song ..., always had Hey brother type song in my mind which would have been cool . Anyway ...,,, yeah lets delete this thread !

It's my faith 10-01-2015 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by SuperBrad (Post 1196076)
Kinda glad cause its a bloody boring song ..., always had Hey brother type song in my mind which would have been cool . Anyway ...,,, yeah lets delete this thread !

Delete it, or keep it closed.

Becky 10-01-2015 10:22 AM

It's officially official that it's not happening, so discussion closed.


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