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I don't think Euphoria (or Slang for that matter) need the remastering treatment so much as CD's mastered from the mid 90's onward generally sound fine. I'd only really want deluxe editions for those album for the b-sides more than anything.
I think the only Leppard albums that truely need remastering are On Though The Night up to Adrenalize, or maybe Retro Active. Much like BP, I'm only after Adrenalize for the b-sides and maybe they'll include the original demo version of When Love And Hate Collide as that was originally recorded for the album and was the last ever recording with Steve Clark. |
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Could give me an excuse to actually get around to getting Pyromania I guess
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Tonight,When Love And Hate Collide. featuring Steve Clarke which most of us have probaly heard??(better than nothing though) , I would have prefer'd something from the 92/93 tour!! Not Don Valley.But maybe a show which they played rare songs frm the Adrenalize album like Ottawa,Ontario Canada!! Only time they've played I Wanna Touch U (Live) |
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Yep, Tonight was a demo, included on some of its CD singles. I'm glad that (from the sounds of it) there won't be anything from Retro Active on there, cause it makes this worth buying and won't make RA obsolete.
This is what I reckon we will see on the Adrenalize remaster in terms of bonus tracks- Miss You In A Heartbeat (Phil's demo) - originally Japanese bonus track She's Too Tough (Joe's demo) - originally Japanese bonus track You Can't Always Get What You Want Little Wing Women (live) Too Late For Love (live) Let's Get Rocked (live) Elected (live) - or maybe not if this is the same as the Hysteria b-side Now I'm Here (live) Photograph (live) Pour Some Sugar On Me (live) Tonight (demo) Two Steps Behind (original b-side version) When Love And Hate Collide (demo) Those are the b-sides I know of. Not a bad collection of songs, if perhaps a tad too much live stuff. As for release dates, seeing as they're headlining Download, the albums will be released not too long before then. |
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I figured they would probably go the LA Forum show route for the Pyromania bonus. This all seems fairly likely..except the LA show exceeds 90 minutes. It's going to have to have 10 minutes edited off.
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I'm praying that they use the occasion of the remaster release of Pyromania along with the tour to release the full album on Rock Band, much like Pearl Jam did recently with Ten. Pyromania is one of those albums that really should be on there and as yet there is absolutely no Def Leppard on either GH World Tour or Rock Band.
I'll be more excited about getting to play Die Hard the Hunter, Billy's Got a Gun, or even Comin Under Fire over releasing Vault on these games. I wouldn't be nearly as excited about playing the songs on the greatest hits set. |
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They don't neccessarily go for what seems obvious with these releases, so I'm not sure Hysteria would be a given. Track for track, Pyromania would be far more fun and straightforward. |
I agree with what you say with Pyromania, but I think Hysteria would also be just as fun as each track would utilize every instrument really well.
I think that Guitar Hero 3 pack only just missed out on a full band treatment purely because it came out just before Rock Band, which I believe was the first game to include all instruments. Had they only waited a few months though... Howver there has been somewhat of a resurgence in the bands popularity within the last year or so, with a new album and successful tour last year and headlining Download Festival this year, they should at least do a full greatest hits pack. |
Playing drums to Def Leppard songs (from Hysteria onwards) could be interesting .....
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I'd prefer Hysteria over a Best Of/Vault. If they were to release the Best Of set as it is on the CD....I'd be pretty unexcited. Collectively those tracks do nothing for me. With Hysteria I'd have Women, the original Rocket, Gods of War, Don't Shoot Shotgun, Run Riot, and Excitable. That would make the singles shine better than they would on the Best Of Set.
If Motley Crue can have the entire Dr Feelgood album (which I rather enjoy playing She Goes Down and Kickstart My Heart), Def Leppard can have Pyromania and/or Hysteria. Adrenalize need not be acknowledged as existing. Whey they are releasing that sh** platter remastered over High N Dry I'll never understand. The sales of that album were more due to the following they amassed with the previous two album rather than on it's own merit...precisely why their popularity went to sh** once everyone realized the album sucked. |
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Their fans, quite frankly, are idiots stuck in the 80s. The majority have made the band their personal nostalgia trip so they can pretend they are still in high school. They blast Hysteria in the parking lot as if it were 1987 and respond to new songs played with "BOO! PLAY POUR SOME SUGAR ON ME!" This is not the hardcore fan base. Their popularity in the 80s earned them a lot of casual fans vs hardcore fans that stay with them. That kind of fanbase kills a band by preventing them from having any success beyond two or three core albums from a certain time period, no matter the caliber of material that follows. Manraze, Phil's side project is a direct response to all of the above. Look around and you'll find him addressing all of the exact points I listed in agreement. Where the band is now is at acceptance with where they have landed, since they can't change history. Any of us would do the same in their shoes. Their hardcore fan base is simply not large enough to sustain their forward creative output on albums and tours. That is why we are stuck with setlists/shows that are dominated by songs from two albums rather than a balanced set from throughout their career. |
Really? Sorry, I've never heard/read anything anywhere by or about the band realising this. I only went by what I said after a little article I read not too long ago (the name and source of which escapes me) about Joe describing their "uncool" perioid in the 90's, hence blaming the poor reception of Slang on that, but bared in mind Adrenalize was also released in the 90's, which sold well. Too me it seemed he wasn't quite seeing the big picture. ;)
Back on topic with the remasters though, I think the band just want to get their "more popular" albums our there first just so casual fans can perhaps familiarise themselves more with their back catalogue, THEN get down to the more obscure stuff buy remastering High N Dry (my money's on this being the next Deluxe Edition) and maybe On Through The Night simultaniously. They did say a few years ago that they planned to remaster their first four albums anyway. |
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"Their fans, quite frankly, are idiots stuck in the 80s." Right. Just like the Bon Jovi fanbase. I know a lot of Bon Jovi fans, including myself, who still buy all their latest releases but still prefer the Glam records. Bon Jovi will be always remembered for Livin' on a Prayer, big hair and pink spandex. |
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Bon Jovi's popularity started to grow with the KTF records. Not the with 80's material. In Europe, the 90's material outdoes the 80's material, both when it comes to hits and when it comes to sales. http://www.drycounty.com/jovitalk/se...searchid=59651 Seriously, how many more times will you use the word spandex? You're seriously obsessed by the way Jon looked. Salaam Aleikum, Sebastiaan |
I know this is a Def Leppard thread, I apologize.
I might sound thick, but remember I'm young. When the hell did Jon wear pink spandex? On topic - is Def's latest album good? I want to get into them and my brother has it already, so I was wondering if I should listen to that or one of the earlier, ore popular albums? |
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About Def Leppard, don't waste your money with the last album. Any album until Retro Active is just fine. Later material is mediocre. |
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David - personally their early albums High N' Dry and Pyromania are their greatest albums, very AC/DC and raw and good rock and roll.
Hysteria is their Slippery When Wet, most popular and spawned their hits 'Animal', 'Pour Some Sugar On Me', 'Hysteria' and more. Try their 2004 Best Of, got all the hits on it and I'm sure you'll enjoy it, it doesn't contain any of their early stuff I love (except for a couple songs 'Photograph' and 'Rock Of Ages') but still a good compilation. Hope that helps. Oh and for the record, I really like Songs From The Sparkle Lounge. |
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Hysteria is a fantastic album. To hear the original SWW and then the original Hysteria, you would think Hysteria was remastered in comparison, such is the superior production quality.
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Slang [Deluxe Edition]
Believe it or not people, looks like Slang may be getting the Deluxe treatment soon!
Read on... https://web.archive.org/web/20111205...pard.com/news/ http://www.expressandstar.com/entert...ck-birmingham/ |
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On the other hand, I have to agree with Yomama on High N Dry, purely for the fact that that album needs it so badly and I would have expected it before Slang. I'd love to finally have that whole album in remastered form beyond the tracks that appeared on the last Best Of double-disc set. Slang doesn't so much need to be remastered, it just needs to be given the reverence and respect it deserves. Very much looking forward to this. |
That's cool. I loved Slang. Too bad Bon Jovi can't seem to do with reissues what Leppard and Motley have done. Hell, even Poison did a better job. Just goes to show what an asshat Obie really is.
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I think HnD and OTtN both got remastered and re-issued in Japan as deluxe editions but rather as a double pack and there might have been a few extra tracks but I can't for the life of me remember. I agree reissuing HnD next would make much more sense on so many levels, plus it was its 30th anniversary this year too. This AND On Through the Night you'd imagine would have been released before Slang or even before Hysteria. But then again, what would they put on the bonus CD's? Aside from the Def Leppard/First Strike EP's which are a no-brainer, can't think of anything else. Perhaps a live CD like Pyromania's?
I was never expecting Slang to ever get reissued for any reason, despite the band always praising and defending it to this day, but when you add up all the b-sides (most of them were awesome btw) it'll make for a great package. The band have talked about remastered re-issues of their albums since about 2004/5 so if they're willing to do Slang, then surely the rest will follow not too much later. |
Vivian Campbell gave a quick update via his Facebook :
"Ownership of Slang masters (and all out takes) revert to us later this year, so there's a good chance that we'll re-release with bonus material." He also claimed that there will be NO new Def Leppard album in 2012. |
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