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jdanielross 04-24-2013 10:58 PM

I'm prone to believe (and it's speculation still after 184-185 pages of a thread) that Richie is in rehab and his publicist/whoever is tweeting for him (bad spelling and all).

I also tend to believe it's much worse this time around. My $0.02.

RonJovi 04-24-2013 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Kathleen (Post 1124364)
That is a very good point Brian. It may be that Richie just doesn't want to be in the circus anymore.

Wait...Richie used to be in a circus?!? This is getting more bizarre by the day.

Kathleen 04-24-2013 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by RonJovi (Post 1124368)
Wait...Richie used to be in a circus?!? This is getting more bizarre by the day.

Don't you remember Jon saying that he ran away and joined the circus?

linnea.cfc32_jovibandana 04-25-2013 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Lisa71 (Post 1124346)
For me, that is another way of saying that Richie hasn't been able to view the videos.

That's what I was thinking too... hence the "Well :(" . Doesn't seem honest in the slightest, and they're probably just trying to cover this thing up further. Too many entries?? Come on!

jovigirloz 04-25-2013 12:10 AM

Maybe it is a mental health thing? Did the cancelling of solo shows etc tie in with the Bon Jovi album/tour getting ready to gear up?
Would love to see the contract they have with Jon. There is probably a clause in there that says when the boss calls, you drop any non Bon Jovi related work.

I hope we get an answer soon as tix for Australia are supposed to go on sale in May. I would assume the same for Japan etc. Not sure how they would sell in Japan without Richie?

RonJovi 04-25-2013 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Kathleen (Post 1124369)
Don't you remember Jon saying that he ran away and joined the circus?

Makes as much sense as anything else. Can't see the circus having Twitter access and it's a bit embarrassing for Jon that Richie left his band to join the circus.

jovigirloz 04-25-2013 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by RonJovi (Post 1124380)
Makes as much sense as anything else. Can't see the circus having Twitter access and it's a bit embarrassing for Jon that Richie left his band to join the circus.

If the size rumours are true, he can be the man with the big "you know what" ;)

we can add that to the list...

AnnieKTF 04-25-2013 12:36 AM

Maybe Backseat Driver is about Jon...? :p

Some of the theories are amusing, but some of them make me worried. :???:

I have tickets for two shows, I'll go to those two either way, but I'm not doing any other shows if Richie's not there.

idbl_fanatic 04-25-2013 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by jovigirloz (Post 1124382)
If the size rumours are true, he can be the man with the big "you know what" ;)

we can add that to the list...

Going with this, maybe he went on to a porn career?

Captain_jovi 04-25-2013 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by jovigirloz (Post 1124377)
Maybe it is a mental health thing? Did the cancelling of solo shows etc tie in with the Bon Jovi album/tour getting ready to gear up?
Would love to see the contract they have with Jon. There is probably a clause in there that says when the boss calls, you drop any non Bon Jovi related work.

I hope we get an answer soon as tix for Australia are supposed to go on sale in May. I would assume the same for Japan etc. Not sure how they would sell in Japan without Richie?

No, the shows timeline were in safe place. Albeit Jon was working on the album when Richie was on the road but the US tour got scaled way back for low ticket sales. The overall promo stopped for the album once Richie got tied into the band tour, not that it was doing much for sales.

jovigirloz 04-25-2013 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain_jovi (Post 1124385)
No, the shows timeline were in safe place. Albeit Jon was working on the album when Richie was on the road but the US tour got scaled way back for low ticket sales. The overall promo stopped for the album once Richie got tied into the band tour, not that it was doing much for sales.

thanks for clarifying that. So many scenarios right now, one of them has to be right.

DestinationJovi 04-25-2013 03:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Mysterytrain (Post 1124337)
I am also getting tired of the "odd tweet or cloaked comments", and it's especially strange for Richie, who has really seemed to develop his own fan base via Twitter, to have virtually disappeared.

That said, if the 'trainwreck' story is true, it's possible the band and Richie are still attempting to negotiate; it may be that they don't know anything definitively, either, at this point. Or if they do, maybe they are bound by legal issues to remain evasive on the matter.

I have only heard the term "trainwreck" used to describe someone who is a disaster, spiraling out of control--like Britney Spears (shaving her head/speaking with a British accent/placed on a 5150 hold), or Lindsay Lohan (arrest/rehab/probation/repeat), or Charlie Sheen (WINNING!). I know I'm probably overanalyzing here, but "trainwreck" to me implies a drinking/drug problem, not a financial disagreement.

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Part of me wonders if Richie having his own Twitter following, and the way in which he discussed how proud he was of 'Aftermath' when it came out, really has helped him feel like he can stand on his own as an artist. Maybe he finally grew tired of not only being second to Jon, but (as it has appeared over the last few years) --been pushed further into the background re: interviews. For example, I just watched the Wal-Mart soundcheck video from this year, and at the introduction, you see Jon seated by himself. Then, the screen shows a separate video of Richie, David and Tico, who each introduce themselves and talk a bit about the new album. Why is it that the four core members couldn't have shared the same space and introduced the video together?

Also, you get things like the Katie Couric interview, where Jon gets a half-an-hour or longer onstage to chat with Katie, while Richie and Dave spend their time backstage, waiting to come out and perform.

Not too long ago, Jon and Richie would often do interviews as a duo. That seems to have lessened over the last year or two.
I think part of the reason is because Jon likes to answer band questions lately with "I...I...I" It's about him! And when Richie is there, Jon seems to cringe whenever he answers a question. Check out how annoyed he is when Richie interjects at 3:20:


bounce442 04-25-2013 06:41 AM

I haven't speculated because nothing ever made much sense.

But now I am going with he was either in danger of or he fell off the wagon and here's why:

His contest.

From the beginning of this tour, he was on fire. In fact, IMO, with Jon's weird (and lack of) movement and lack of energy, Richie carried the show. The day before his last show with the band, Richie was the best I'd ever seen him. It's for this reason, this being alcohol/drug related didn't feel right even though that was always the most likely possibility. Think about it... over 30 years, he's had to have countless spats with Jon, but he'd never missed a show... unless he was in treatment.

Since not showing up to play, he's tweeted 3 times and there has been 1 youtube message -that was clearly written by someone else. For all we know, the tweets came from someone else. Why wouldn't he make that announcement?

Richie's tweets leading up to his "no show" were 1) two strange tweets (given the situation) about Forgiveness St and Easter/born again and 2) he was watching contest entries.

If his departure was because of a fight with Jon, wouldn't keeping his fans be a priority? I understand not commenting much... getting into a tabloid fight wouldn't help anyone BUT I can't think of any reason why he wouldn't keep his commitment, when clearly he was watching the entries until whatever happened happened.

So yeah, it's either alcohol or he's been learning how to make ricin. :p

rightsideofwrong 04-25-2013 07:49 AM

Ricin easily. He was on a breaking bad binge and finally learned how to get rid of Jon :P

peewee 04-25-2013 09:04 AM

Jon always said "What happens to BJ stays in BJ".

Now that line from Just Older comes to my mind: "We got secrets that we'll take to the grave".

I guess we'll have to wait and see... or think of any other stuff until the answer comes out of the closet.

RonJovi 04-25-2013 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by peewee (Post 1124408)
Jon always said "What happens to BJ stays in BJ".

Now that line from Just Older comes to my mind: "We got secrets that we'll take to the grave".

I guess we'll have to wait and see... or think of any other stuff until the answer comes out of the closet.

Wait...are you in the know here? Are we back to the "touch the winkie" theory?

jovigirloz 04-25-2013 09:39 AM

Jon has said how he loves the Sopranos - maybe Richie has concrete boots on?
Italian mafia theory now ;)

steel_horse75 04-25-2013 12:03 PM

Interesting.

If he has been fired he only has himself to blame.

ezearis 04-25-2013 12:21 PM

This thread has so many jokes that I can't tell if you're being serious or not.

RonJovi 04-25-2013 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Beaky (Post 1124418)
NEVER reveal your sources, mate... Your friend's job is based on trust; ie: hearing things while she is working and not repeating them. I would take this down if you can.

Have to agree with this. What would she do if she knew you'd posted it here?

† ÀžžÀ † 04-25-2013 12:35 PM

I just think we, the fans, deserve some information. I will remove the post if need be but I just wanted to share a snippet of what I'd heard. At the end of the day thousands of fans have invested in seeing shows but have been kept in the dark about everything. I also wanted to add the source of this news so nobody felt I was on the wind-up.

CKatz 04-25-2013 12:38 PM

If that's true, then why would Jon lie on television? I think the drummer is full of shit. He probably read the tabloids. "Looks like...."? He's not even sure. Just as clueless as everyone else who are so sure they know what's going on.

Living_on_my_Hair 04-25-2013 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by RonJovi (Post 1124419)
Have to agree with this. What would she do if she knew you'd posted it here?

Agreed. All you need is a perezhilton type researcher snooping around online (a major fansite like this would be an easy source of info..bad journalists do this all the time) to quote you on that and suddenly the info is everywhere online, with your name/location etc and your friend could be in some trouble.


Andi

RonJovi 04-25-2013 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by † ÀžžÀ † (Post 1124420)
I just think we, the fans, deserve some information. I will remove the post if need be but I just wanted to share a snippet of what I'd heard. At the end of the day thousands of fans have invested in seeing shows but have been kept in the dark about everything. I also wanted to add the source of this news so nobody felt I was on the wind-up.

Fair play for sharing the info mate, and I don't think you're on the wind up and appreciate the fact you went to lengths to show you weren't. Just for your own sake and your friend's sake, you might be best taking it down.

Like Living on My Hair says, it wouldn't take much for some prick of a journo to quote this.

† ÀžžÀ † 04-25-2013 12:46 PM

OK guys I appreciate you're views. I have deleted the post myself but it still appears to be showing where folks have quoted me. If any mods can remove all trace I'd be very thankful. Like I said, I was simply trying to relay some info as I'm frustrated at the secrecy.

ezearis 04-25-2013 12:48 PM

I've just removed mine. Hope everyone does the same, and thanks for the information.

CKatz 04-25-2013 12:53 PM

Removed the quote.

MrNickel 04-25-2013 01:10 PM

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Beaky 04-25-2013 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by RonJovi (Post 1124423)
Fair play for sharing the info mate, and I don't think you're on the wind up and appreciate the fact you went to lengths to show you weren't. Just for your own sake and your friend's sake, you might be best taking it down.

Like Living on My Hair says, it wouldn't take much for some prick of a journo to quote this.

Completely agree with the above; I can totally see your motivation for posting and this community is, I would imagine, totally trustworthy. Having been in the industry, I know plenty who aren't.

It's actually great to see someone who is so untouched by cynicism that they would post that info, to be honest and whether it's hearsay or not, it's more than we're getting from anywhere else.

NB: I've deleted my response.

Walkerboy 04-25-2013 01:41 PM

Hmmm, looks like I missed some interesting snippets that have now been removed...... or was that just re-referencing Azza's "insider info" that was posted yesterday?? Personally I thought that was just b******s anyway - it mentioned "a friend" who knows "such and such" etc. etc.

It's no different to me saying that I met Jon and had a chat with him once and also know someone who claims to know a lot about what's going on and then stating it on here, despite the fact it could be utter crap because one of them is a Richie fan more than a BJ fan.......

Beaky 04-25-2013 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Walkerboy (Post 1124432)
Hmmm, looks like I missed some interesting snippets that have now been removed...... or was that just re-referencing Azza's "insider info" that was posted yesterday?? Personally I thought that was just b******s anyway - it mentioned "a friend" who knows "such and such" etc. etc.

It's no different to me saying that I met Jon and had a chat with him once and also know someone who claims to know a lot about what's going on and then stating it on here, despite the fact it could be utter crap because one of them is a Richie fan more than a BJ fan.......

You met Jon and had a chat with him once!?!?

Take that down mate, if people find out your source is Jon...




... they'll know for sure you're talking bollocks.

MrNickel 04-25-2013 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Beaky (Post 1124438)
You met Jon and had a chat with him once!?!?

Take that down mate, if people find out your source is Jon...




... they'll know for sure you're talking bollocks.

Yeah man, you don't want to removed from Jon's "inner circle".

bruce11981 04-25-2013 02:59 PM

189 pages of info, almost a month reading, & I miss a credible tip from Azza by a couple hours. These are the days I know God hates me.

Beaky 04-25-2013 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by bruce11981 (Post 1124440)
189 pages of info, almost a month reading, & I miss a credible tip from Azza by a couple hours. These are the days I know God hates me.

He basically said his friend actually witnessed Paul K driving out into the desert with a shovel, a bag of lime and something shaped a lot like a dead pug...

RonJovi 04-25-2013 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by bruce11981 (Post 1124440)
189 pages of info, almost a month reading, & I miss a credible tip from Azza by a couple hours. These are the days I know God hates me.

Are you saying that there haven't been other credible tips in this thread?

Anyway, Beaky has let the cat/pug out of the bag and told you what the tip was. Shocking stuff.

Hey, we are nearly at 200,000 views. Woo hoo.

Walkerboy 04-25-2013 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by MrNickel (Post 1124439)
Yeah man, you don't want to removed from Jon's "inner circle".

See, I've heard all sorts of things from "insider claims", some which are believable and some that seem ridiculous....... I just take it all with a pinch of salt now.

Beaky 04-25-2013 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Walkerboy (Post 1124444)
See, I've heard all sorts of things from "insider claims", some which are believable and some that seem ridiculous....... I just take it all with a pinch of salt now.

Pinch of salt... bag of lime... you've heard it too, haven't you?

idbl_fanatic 04-25-2013 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Beaky (Post 1124442)
He basically said his friend actually witnessed Paul K driving out into the desert with a shovel, a bag of lime and something shaped a lot like a dead pug...

Lie, not lime

badmoon 04-25-2013 04:10 PM

Near 190 pages of most non-sense (though entertaining non-sense. You guys are something I tell you), stalking this place every waking hours since April 2nd, and missing probably the best bit of information by sleeping in. Well, guess that's just my luck. I suppose the intention was there, just sad I missed it. (And don't go arround saying ''you don't even know if it's true anyway'' the sole reasons you're still all there is to get infos. As a fan, you are bound to look at everything you can find)

At least I now know Richie's pug probably isn't safe anymore. That pug's definitively the victim here can't you all see?

Beaky 04-25-2013 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by badmoon (Post 1124447)
Near 190 pages of most non-sense (though entertaining non-sense. You guys are something I tell you), stalking this place every waking hours since April 2nd, and missing probably the best bit of information by sleeping in. Well, guess that's just my luck. I suppose the intention was there, just sad I missed it. (And don't go arround saying ''you don't even know if it's true anyway'' the sole reasons you're still all there is to get infos. As a fan, you are bound to look at everything you can find)

At least I now know Richie's pug probably isn't safe anymore. That pug's definitively the victim here can't you all see?

The pug is in hiding... he knows too much...


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