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I'm not taking the risk on purchasing anything until I get confirmation that Richie had returned. It's a good job tickets are so easy to get on the European leg or else I'd be panicking.

What I'm worried about is the quality of the setlists we'll be seeing. Now, the quality of the setlists hasn't exactly pleased most of us anyway, but now that Richie is "gone" for at least this leg of the tour, I don't see them pulling out any kind of rarities. Which sucks.

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Originally Posted by Supersonic (Post 1119955)

Aloha !
They'd hear its not quite the same. In North America, and especially the U.S.A., the average Bon Jovi fan has not the faintest idea that it's a band not a lead singer with a good band.
Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan

Trying not to be rude and insulting like you, so I'll just say that you are completely wrong.

Aloha !

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Originally Posted by danfan (Post 1119963)

Trying not to be rude and insulting like you, so I'll just say that you are completely wrong.

How so? You can backup an opinion by actually providing arguments as opposed to insults.

I've been in the Gold Circle, I've been on the field, I've been in the lower and upper tiers, no matter where you are, you're surrounded with clueless American fans. I've seen 11 concerts in North America by now, I think I've got quite a good idea over the differences crowd-wise and how people perceive Bon Jovi there. I was in the Gold Circle with an American die hard and she overheard a conversation in the washrooms going "Wow Kid Rock was amazing, how is Bon Jovi going to top that. With A Richie Sambora song? Ha ha ha..." Believe me, she thought it was ridiculous as well, but really, what can you do? It's just the way it is.

Now tell me, how many shows in Europe have you seen? As a matter of fact, how many shows outside of the Boston area have you seen? Clearly if you think you're wrong you must have something to back up your opinion?

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan

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Originally Posted by danfan (Post 1119963)

Trying not to be rude and insulting like you, so I'll just say that you are completely wrong.

Sure, that's why Richie sold out all his US Shows

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Originally Posted by Supersonic (Post 1119964)

Aloha !

How so? You can backup an opinion by actually providing arguments as opposed to insults.

I've been in the Gold Circle, I've been on the field, I've been in the lower and upper tiers, no matter where you are, you're surrounded with clueless American fans. I've seen 11 concerts in North America by now, I think I've got quite a good idea over the differences crowd-wise and how people perceive Bon Jovi there. I was in the Gold Circle with an American die hard and she overheard a conversation in the washrooms going "Wow Kid Rock was amazing, how is Bon Jovi going to top that. With A Richie Sambora song? Ha ha ha..." Believe me, she thought it was ridiculous as well, but really, what can you do? It's just the way it is.

Now tell me, how many shows in Europe have you seen? As a matter of fact, how many shows outside of the Boston area have you seen? Clearly if you think you're wrong you must have something to back up your opinion?

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan

Never been to a show in Europe. Been to shows in Massachusetts, Rhode Island, Connecticut and New Jersey. For the fans that I know, EVERYBODY knows who Richie is. I'm sure there are some morons who think it's just Jon Bon Jovi, but I don't see that as the majority. When he went to rehab on the last tour, the majority of people that I spoke to at the show knew full well who Richie was and that he wasn't going to be there.

Among people that I speak to, even non Jovi fans, I don't know too many people who don't know who Richie Sambora is.

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Originally Posted by Sambo-Chris (Post 1119965)

Sure, that's why Richie sold out all his US Shows

What does that prove? I didn't buy a ticket to any of his shows either. I don't particularly care for his solo stuff. Doesn't mean I don't know who he is.

Maybe the reason Europe ...unlike America...sees Bon Jovi as a band, has to do with the fact that the band already built quite an impressive following in Europe (and Japan!), long before Slippery When Wet came out. Americans didn't really jump on the Bon Jovi bandwagon until then. Then Americans lost interest in the band again in the 90s while in Europe the fanbase grew even more. Europe never turned it's back on Bon Jovi...so there is a stronger bond.

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Originally Posted by CKatz (Post 1119968)

That's bullcrap. Bon Jovi has always been big in America. Not as big in the 90's as they were in the 80's, but they still sold out every arena they played. From what people on this board are saying, their popularity in Europe has died down quite a lot over the course of the last 2 albums.

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Originally Posted by CKatz (Post 1119968)

Bon Jovi were unknown in Europe until Slippery. All their singles failed to chart until 1985.

They never lost their hardcore fans in America. Keep the Faith and These Days went 2x Platinum and Platinum respectively. They only lost the casual fans, who moved to the next cool trend of the time.