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Beaky 04-03-2013 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Lisa71 (Post 1119442)
I knew those stupid signs would be the end of this band!!

TEAM RICHIE signs out in force then...

nikos greece 04-03-2013 08:50 PM

really heartbreaking news...both richie and jon made "sambora" replacable the last years...it will never be the sam if he leaves but the last years its more and more about jon, what songs he prefers, what priorites he has...by the looks of it there are only 2 obvious options right now...
1.richie relapsed and went back in rehab, he hasnt tweeted anything, maybe its just for precaution, who knows? addictions are hard but he lets down the band one again and becomes a liability...noone else but him misses shows...i admire jon for dont giving up, its a lose lose situation and everyone involved looks unprofessional...
2. richie decided he wanted a break from the band...unfortunately it looks possible right now even if some years back this would seem as a joke...jon is a smart man and businessman and wouldnt show his dissapointment and anger publicly if he thought things could change and save the tour...

as a whole, from the twitter etc nothing disastrous happen, it looks like it was richies decision, its sad that a band of their status hurts their image with things like these...the tour looked good and they have some big shows in front of them, especially in europe...

as for the edge comment, it was really funny but the truth is u2 would cancel. edge is inreplacable, while richie nowdays is not, he chooses to play powerchords and simplistic solos, wan is an album where richie is only a guest...i also have to point out that jon forced bobby in the band for situations like these...it was obvious from the have a nice day tour...

ps.i hope they sort everything out, richie is healthy. and if this is a fight maybe there should be a conflict and some changes,..

StoneDeaf 04-03-2013 08:50 PM

Well if Mr. Sambora decides to quit, or just concentrate on matters that are more enjoyable to him... I'm sure there are plenty of country-oriented guitar players in USA available. Such player would even be more suitable to modern day Bon Jovi compared to a rock musician. It is hard to imagine him enjoying performing the recent stuff. Less/no solos, and pointless 2nd guitar player on stage.

Face it, Bon Jovi is done. All hail Jon & countryboys.

joloriquelme 04-03-2013 08:50 PM

Or... another theory.

JBJ put a decision over Richie seeing lack of interest:

a) Tour and promote the band's album, or
b) Get off the bus and promote your own solo project

RS overreacted (or maybe not) and choose B. Eventually, the band will announce that all the tour (including Euro) will be without RS.

Maybe even Jon aceppted so they're on armony, but with 'temporary' separated ways.

Cheers.

Walkerboy 04-03-2013 08:56 PM

Money??? Look how cheap they have been selling tickets at the last minute.... What's one of the first things you do if you don't make the money you want - you cut the pay of your staff.
Dave/Tico/Hugh wouldn't argue as they have no other avenues that can bring in high money
Richie on the other hand...........

As a non-Jovi friend of mine has just said - last minute decision not to play sounds more and more like an argument.
You don't make a decision to go to rehab a few hours before the gig - you do it the day before!

Supersonic 04-03-2013 08:57 PM

Aloha !

Quote:

Originally Posted by joloriquelme (Post 1119446)
Or... another theory.

JBJ put a decision over Richie seeing lack of interest:

a) Tour and promote the band's album, or
b) Get off the bus and promote your own solo project

RS overreacted (or maybe not) and choose B.

Cheers.

Yeah, or how about Richie left for personal reasons, no one has any ****ing idea why and all these theories about him leavin because he wasn't satisfied with the Bon Jovi machine are absolutely pointless?

http://bitsofwisdom.org/wp-content/u...mon-sense3.jpg

It's mind-boggling to see all these theories show up and people actually thinking they're really on to something.

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan

rightsideofwrong 04-03-2013 08:58 PM

If richie actually walked I'd assume there would be an announcement after the departing contract is finalized. That's still hard to believe though. Richie SEEMS more classy then to leave people and fans high and dry. Not fulfilling a commitment because he's unhappy with it wouldn't blow over well and people will sh** their pants if that's the case. In other news that masturbation / is there a dr in the house is easily the funniest thing I've ever read on here lmao.

nickolai 04-03-2013 09:00 PM

I think this will be the last time i will see Bon Jovi as a live act. At Villa Park, if Richie isn't there it wont be Bon Jovi. It'll be Jon, David, Tico, Hugh, Bobby and someone that will never be anyone close to Richie. I nearly had it 2 years ago and I'm probably going to get a Richie-less concert this time around.

Notr happenin' again. Bon Jovi are now too unreliable as a live act now. I dont mean to come over insensitive, Whatever is going on with Richie isn't his fault or anyone's fault and I wish him well in whatever he's going through. But as a fan it upsets me to see this happening again. I'm not angry or disappointed. I'm upset for me, the band and every Bon Jovi fan around the world.

bounce442 04-03-2013 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joloriquelme (Post 1119446)
Or... another theory.

JBJ put a decision over Richie seeing lack of interest:

a) Tour and promote the band's album, or
b) Get off the bus and promote your own solo project

RS overreacted (or maybe not) and choose B. Eventually, the band will announce that all the tour (including Euro) will be without RS.

Maybe even Jon aceppted so they're on armony, but with 'temporary' separated ways.

Cheers.

I think the theory of Jon telling Richie to focus is ridiculous. The contest is just a contest to promote a small indie release that is absolutely no threat to Bon Jovi. The video promoting the contest took all of 5 minutes... it is not like all of his attention is going toward his solo effort.
The one show I have seen this tour, Richie nailed it. He was probably the best I have ever seen him. For the same reason, I find it hard to believe he has relapsed. But I don't know.

nikos greece 04-03-2013 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Supersonic (Post 1119448)
Aloha !



Yeah, or how about Richie left for personal reasons, no one has any ****ing idea why and all these theories about him leavin because he wasn't satisfied with the Bon Jovi machine are absolutely pointless?

http://bitsofwisdom.org/wp-content/u...mon-sense3.jpg

It's mind-boggling to see all these theories show up and people actually thinking they're really on to something.

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan


i agree that the speculations dont help but its sad news and the band is annoyingly enigmatic and silent so all of us come up with scenarios...

kekko21 04-03-2013 09:03 PM

We still don't know what really happened.

Maybe it's his mother who's not good at the moment. Who knows.

nickolai 04-03-2013 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Supersonic (Post 1119448)
Aloha !



Yeah, or how about Richie left for personal reasons, no one has any ****ing idea why and all these theories about him leavin because he wasn't satisfied with the Bon Jovi machine are absolutely pointless?

http://bitsofwisdom.org/wp-content/u...mon-sense3.jpg

It's mind-boggling to see all these theories show up and people actually thinking they're really on to something.

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan

Excuse me? Its a discussion forum you imbecile. What is wrong with people speculating? They've spent hard money to see Bon Jovi. The problem is Bon Jovi's P.R. (or lack of) strategy.

Dont lambast people for discussing what they think the matter may be. This aint USSJ - United Soviet Socialist Jovitalk....

fairtex444 04-03-2013 09:08 PM

2014 The Reunion tour

Neurotica80 04-03-2013 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by nickolai (Post 1119450)
Bon Jovi are now too unreliable as a live act now.

Think that's a bit unfair to JBJ, has hasn't cancelled one show in 30 years as far as I'm aware. (Not counting the unavoidable weather related one). However Richie has dropped out on 3 occasions in as many years, which was up until then out of character for him.

steel_horse75 04-03-2013 09:09 PM

He hasn't quit the band.
Look at the pics in FB - does that look like an un happy bloke.
Clearly back on the sauce and needs to go to rehab again

Bleeding Purist 04-03-2013 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by nickolai (Post 1119454)
Excuse me? Its a discussion forum you imbecile. What is wrong with people speculating? They've spent hard money to see Bon Jovi. The problem is Bon Jovi's P.R. (or lack of) strategy.

Dont lambast people for discussing what they think the matter may be. This aint USSJ - United Soviet Socialist Jovitalk....

Cool it on the name-calling. Thanks.

nickolai 04-03-2013 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Bleeding Purist (Post 1119458)
Cool it on the name-calling. Thanks.

bite me:mad:

The Rock 04-03-2013 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nickolai (Post 1119450)

Notr happenin' again. Bon Jovi are now too unreliable as a live act now.

It's one man doing this, not a band. Same member last time, same member again. Not David, Tico or JBJ. They are one of the few remaining reliable acts around. Before 2011, no one would have ever thought of this happening. Richie needs to be addressed. I love the guy but seriously, this is ****ed.

Bleeding Purist 04-03-2013 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by nickolai (Post 1119459)
bite me:mad:

Ok. Done.

nickolai 04-03-2013 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neurotica80 (Post 1119456)
Think that's a bit unfair to JBJ, has hasn't cancelled one show in 30 years as far as I'm aware. (Not counting the unavoidable weather related one). However Richie has dropped out on 3 occasions in as many years, which was up until then out of character for him.

Well you've kinda proved my point. 3 times in as many years...its hardly going to get better. If I was a betting man i'd say that it is going to happen again.

Jon HAS been fantastic dont get me wrong. Fighting spirit and that. I just have no interest in a no-Richie BOn Jovi

Kathleen 04-03-2013 09:14 PM

If the band - or the PR arm of the band would just give an honest reason for Richie's departure all the stupid speculation would just stop. They don't need to provide details, just the facts. If it's family related, just say that - it's enough. If it's rehab again, be honest enough to own up to it. It seems so simple and it would cut all the drama.

Beaky 04-03-2013 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kathleen (Post 1119463)
If the band - or the PR arm of the band would just give an honest reason for Richie's departure all the stupid speculation would just stop. They don't need to provide details, just the facts. If it's family related, just say that - it's enough. If it's rehab again, be honest enough to own up to it. It seems so simple and it would cut all the drama.

This.

It's why the longer the silence goes on, the more worrying it is that it's something they have to 'spin'.

Bleeding Purist 04-03-2013 09:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kathleen (Post 1119463)
If the band - or the PR arm of the band would just give an honest reason for Richie's departure all the stupid speculation would just stop. They don't need to provide details, just the facts. If it's family related, just say that - it's enough. If it's rehab again, be honest enough to own up to it. It seems so simple and it would cut all the drama.

Agreed. I certainly hope they have the sense to elaborate on the situation very soon. You simply cannot just make such a brief statement and leave it at that today.

steel_horse75 04-03-2013 09:23 PM

What's worrying is the silence.
Maybe lawyers thrashing out a deal to let him walk away?
JBJ said it wasn't police it hospital related which don't leave a lot of other things

Captain.Crash 04-03-2013 09:23 PM

http://calgary.ctvnews.ca/homeless-f...jovi-1.1222327

Bounce7800 04-03-2013 09:28 PM

I would be truly amazed if it's Richie leaving the band. The musical arguments put forward are valid but if he was to come to that decision it simply wouldn't be done a few hours before a show . Plus 99% of his fans are bon jovi fans, and alienating your fan base by doing that would not be smart. If he were to leave the band, I wouldn't have thought he would do it mid tour let alone just before a show.

mrleaf 04-03-2013 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain.Crash (Post 1119469)

Dig at richie now that he is homeless well (bandless)

Captmorgs 04-03-2013 09:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supersonic (Post 1119448)
Aloha !



Yeah, or how about Richie left for personal reasons, no one has any ****ing idea why and all these theories about him leavin because he wasn't satisfied with the Bon Jovi machine are absolutely pointless?

http://bitsofwisdom.org/wp-content/u...mon-sense3.jpg

It's mind-boggling to see all these theories show up and people actually thinking they're really on to something.

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan

Maybe the most I have ever agreed with Seb (no offense). Exactly my thoughts.

ticos_stick 04-03-2013 09:44 PM

It's no surprise really, just a bit sad.

He looked bored on the new tour and had little input on the latest album. All he seems interested in recently is his solo album and if that's what makes him happy then so be it. Bon Jovi are a band nearly twenty years past their peak. Where will it end? Tico getting onto his drum stool via a stair lift?

I just hope he's pulled out because he's sick of the band and not because he's back pounding tequila with ladies of the night.

LeaJovi 04-03-2013 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bounce7800 (Post 1119470)
I would be truly amazed if it's Richie leaving the band. The musical arguments put forward are valid but if he was to come to that decision it simply wouldn't be done a few hours before a show . Plus 99% of his fans are bon jovi fans, and alienating your fan base by doing that would not be smart. If he were to leave the band, I wouldn't have thought he would do it mid tour let alone just before a show.

Exactly, that is the worst resign ever. Only topped by quitting live onstage :D

Walleris 04-03-2013 09:53 PM

Omg It"s True. It Was Caught On Tape!! 3:30pm From The Soundcheck!!!!


danfan 04-03-2013 09:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bleeding Purist (Post 1119465)
Agreed. I certainly hope they have the sense to elaborate on the situation very soon. You simply cannot just make such a brief statement and leave it at that today.

This is what pisses me off about the entire thing. I mean, sure, they have the right to do "their laundry" in private, but when you've already made a commitment to a million people, a bit more information would be the classy thing to do.

danfan 04-03-2013 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Walleris (Post 1119475)
Omg It"s True. It Was Caught On Tape!! 3:30pm From The Soundcheck!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDR-S9s2Ls0

My God!!!!

idbl_fanatic 04-03-2013 09:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Walleris (Post 1119475)
Omg It"s True. It Was Caught On Tape!! 3:30pm From The Soundcheck!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDR-S9s2Ls0

UMMM Yeah, OK

synnea 04-03-2013 09:57 PM

Couldnt agree more. It is a very odd official statement. There is more to this I feel.

At least to state a family issue or even state 'Richie has not left the band' or 'Richie is still a member of Bon Jovi' or something to that effect would even help!!

kidsonbridges 04-03-2013 09:59 PM

Give Credit to Jon & Other Band Members
 
Hey I seen Bon Jovi In New Orleans last time Richie Bailed the Day before and give the Band Credit they went out and put on a hell of a show
and am sure did the same Last night

Also Lets not forget he didn't turn up for Rehearsal run through at the BBC show Last Month because he wanted to watch a football match on TV

I Hope Richie is Ok , But Jon and Tico and Dave have the Guts to go and do the shows not to let anyone down so stop ya moaning!

KOB

Kuba80BJ 04-03-2013 09:59 PM

http://www.bonjovi.com/en/news/47042...y#.UVyIH3y-mfY
"Ticket purchasers need not worry, all upcoming shows will go on as scheduled. Any ticket purchaser who would like a refund can do so before show time."

This is at least a good thing from BJ camp, something that should have happened the last time Richie was not available. At least US fans have an option to get a refund now.

Still more info about what is going on would be appreciated for others all around the world :(

Lisa71 04-03-2013 10:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Rock (Post 1119341)
I'm thinking that too. Look at the quote from Jon. His not in hospital, not in jail but they love and support him. The more I read that, the more I see that as Jon saying that they love and support him, no matter what he wants to do. He has his support 100%.

He didn't say that they support him but they love him and send him all our best. Big difference. Sending someone your best, seems to me that something is wrong with them, not that they want to quit the band.


He's not in the hospital or jail but we love him & send him all our best. I could pack up & cancel, not an option for tonight. I need you more then ever lets go

Bleeding Purist 04-03-2013 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kuba80BJ (Post 1119481)
http://www.bonjovi.com/en/news/47042...y#.UVyIH3y-mfY
"Ticket purchasers need not worry, all upcoming shows will go on as scheduled. Any ticket purchaser who would like a refund can do so before show time."

This is at least a good thing from BJ camp, something that should have happened the last time Richie was not available. At least US fans have an option to get a refund now.

Still more info about what is going on would be appreciated for others all around the world :(

Well this is a development. I will still be going to my show on April 19th though. I just want to know who is coming in to sub for Richie.

Bleeding Purist 04-03-2013 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by kidsonbridges (Post 1119480)
Also Lets not forget he didn't turn up for Rehearsal run through at the BBC show Last Month because he wanted to watch a football match on TV


KOB

Great, he's taking a page from Ace Frehley.


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