The footage Ive seen of the band, namely video footage of Richie recording the Lost Highway solo was doing full passes and Frankensteining them together, which is pretty common. Im not sure if I imagined it being said but in no way are these solos done note for note assembled.

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TBH, I didn't absolutely nothing wrong!!!!

4 posts between me and OldJoy and this discussion was over and done with. It's the other members like You, Kathleen, Bounce7800, & Alphavictim that are keeping this alive and derailed by adding in your 2 cents...

Everything you just stated and all the information that the other members listed above stated could have easily been sent via PM but you all decided to post the drama public and keep the derailment going... It's all the above's fault that 4 simple posts between me and OldJoy just turned into 2 pages... That's always the case around here...

If me and OldJoy go at it at times, so what and grow up. We are adults... No personal attacks took place and subjects go off topic on here all the time.. There was no real derailment!!!! We had a difference in opinion and were debating Phil's title with the KOS... Kathleen should have just stayed out of it and this would have been over... She caused the derailment buddy!!!

I agree on that. If I get it right, of course, since I can tell that Richie wasnt the lead guitarist for a while. I mean The Circle? There's some nice guitar work there which, you can tell that there's Sambora in it. But, What About Now?! Nah, I barely found Richie in it. It was more Shanks and maybe Bobby too there.

Sure thing, you won't spot many differences on guitar work between WAN & THINFS as most of the guitar work was done by Shanks unless, Jon asked something heavier in specific tracks. Also, if I'm right, Mr. X contributed to four tracks or less?

4 is right. We are hearing enough Shanks style playing to have a better idea of what was him and what was Richie on WAN. Some songs I will swear Richie only did the solo. The riff in the second verse of Im With You Richie never played live like it was on the record. But Shanks playing rhythm on the record dates back to HAND. Dan Huff has said in interviews he himself played rhythm on Lost Highway so its not like a matter of Richie wasnt there so they got someone else.

I dont buy this Richie has been unreliable since 2005 talk. His playing got lazier yes but he was there for every stepm

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It's too late to leave a comment for this but I would do it anyway.

I think this is a false statement if you mean that Richie would still be in the band if he had freedom. "Lack of artistic freedom" is the 'official' reason Richie gave about leaving the band but I'm sure that this is not the only one. There should be many stronger reasons to make him quit mid-tour... reasons that for PR reasons are kept secret.

Well, all I can say about Richie is that since he returned from absence in 2011 he had a good run of shows and specifically in Athens he gave us some amazing solos, faces & a stunning performance in overall.
He really enjoyed every second of the show as the rest of the band did too, but you could see it in his face that he was really having a blast. His reaction, during Wanted, to the crowd singing the song since they hit the first note on guitar was priceless.

Richie might got tired and exhausted of touring back to back, but that's not an excuse to quit a band. None is ever going to state the whole truth behind what might happened but it's not just a reason, there are multiple reasons and facts behind Richie's exit.

But honestly? Three years later, it's pointless to talk about Richie. We all miss him, and by all, I mean all these people who actually love Bon Jovi as a whole and not just Jon's look. Other than that, us, who like Richie and want to support him, we can buy his new record, go to a show or two if possible and that's all. Life is moving on and so does Richie & Bon Jovi, even if they took separate ways cause it didn't feel right anymore.

BTW (I don't know if it was shared before here but I bet it was but anyway):

I don't think this is even worth the debate anymore. Obviously, they are not doing this. It would be hugely time-consuming and harder than just playing the solo. I don't care that it can be done, there is no compelling reason why it would be done. No-one has really said this is how this solo was completed, and it does not even sound like it was done like that.

It sounds like a solo recorded in the normal way, probably taking the best pieces from a few runs. The only problem with the solo is its boring and lazy, but that's common from Bon Jovi for years.

:lol: Have a look at the previous page +
http://www.drycounty.com/jovitalk/bo...000/page4.html

but it's like school: you have to repeat things a million times before everybody hears it! ;)

No, the "official" reason Richie gave was that he wanted to be home with his daughter and he was sick of being on the road.

It's clear Richie didn't have much creative input/involvement on WAN and that he didn't like the direction Jon was taking the band's music. So much so that he quit mid-tour. A dick move, yes, but I truly believe he couldn't stand the thought of playing a tour supporting that turd of an album for 70 more shows. So he said 'F this, I'd rather go out on my own and play whatever I want and shred ridiculous 5 minute solos if I choose to.'

When DJ Pierre Robert interviewed Jon about Richie leaving he said, "If it doesn't move you anymore, you have the right to leave." http://youtu.be/AhuJY4s9PmM

When Bobby said in the interview posted upthread, "Richie and Jon weren't seeing eye to eye," I think it's a safe bet they weren't seeing things eye to eye musically. Richie wanted more rock; Jon wanted whatever the hell you call WAN.

So I don't think saying if Richie had more artistic freedom and creative input he'd still be in the band is a false statement at all.

Nice Post!!!