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Originally Posted by Rdkopper (Post 1181646)

Yea, Dr. Feelgood is your typical 80's Bob Rock album but the prior albums are really good too. Especially the first two.

Typical 80s Bob Rock album, yeah? Yeah - when I listen to it, it's exactly in line with all the others he produced. Let me just list them quickly:

1980 - Pointed Sticks - Perfect Youth
1981 - Payola$ - In a Place Like This
1986 - Zappacosta - A to Z
1986 - The Cheer - Shot with Our Own Guns
1987 - Rock and Hyde - Under the Volcano
1988 - Kingdom Come - Kingdom Come
1988 - Colin James
1989 - The Cult - Sonic Temple
1989 - Blue Murder - Blue Murder

Cut whatever magic mushrooms you use and stop misinforming people RdKopper. You and rocknation are like non-sense machines. What the hell!?!

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Originally Posted by Rdkopper (Post 1181654)

The dude knows how to keep his band going despite it having the same and limited success as a Poison or a Def Leppard. He is responsible for that band and I would put him just under Jon for his business credibility.

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I read both The Dirt and The Heroin Diaries. He mentions how him and Jon would both get chicks together and how Jon would talk to them with his Jersey accent. It would piss him off etc.

And what does that have to do with anything? Not to mention that it's one little story from 1984!!! They were in Germany and they were both getting a blow job from prostitutes in a twin-bed hotel room. Hardly a point in time to be representative of anything....but yeah. In RdKopper land everything comes together and makes sense somehow. Ding dong! IT DOESN'T!

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Dude, just read the books before throwing insults due to misrepresentation of facts.

Pfffffffff.....RdKopper accusing people of misrepresenting fact muahahhaha :D What is the world coming to??

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Originally Posted by Alphavictim (Post 1181774)

You mean other than the fact that this thread is about his band, and that there are credited co-writers on all the songs?

If you look really closely in the thread title there is another band mentioned.:rolleyes:. And I still don't get why it matters that he had help with songwriting. You ever heard of Desmond Child?

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Originally Posted by dcj28 (Post 1181778)

If you look really closely in the thread title there is another band mentioned.:rolleyes:. And I still don't get why it matters that he had help with songwriting. You ever heard of Desmond Child?

I'm not trying to defend Bon Jovi, brainiac. Rdpkopper said that "Nikki rules", I said that he's one major style over substance dude. One who hasn't written a song on his own in a long time (even on his solo albums), let alone a good one. So the "he's the creative genius in MC"-angle doesn't work. Whether Bon Jovi also utilized songwriters has nothing to do with that. If he had accused Tom Jones of being shit, would that have made him a better songwriter, just because that guy doesn't really do any writing?

Hidden camera video of Nikki at a record store in Jersey playing Larry, a store worker. Without fail, he makes fun of Bon Jovi. Aside for that, the video is pretty funny.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdYuecdWpwQ#t=20

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Originally Posted by DevilsSon (Post 1181777)

Limited success of Def Leppard?!? Hysteria is the 7th best selling hard rock album of all time, only behind (in this order) Back in Black, Led Zeppelin IV, Appetite for Destruction, Metallica's Black Album, Nirvana's Nevermind and Slippery When Wet.

And that is limited success to you? Pyromania was probably the most influential record since Van Halen debuted and outsold EVERY SINGLE Motley or Poison record. Yet you are talking about limited success? God damn it, take that dildo out of your ass and get a grip. You are talking crap!

And what does that have to do with anything? Not to mention that it's one little story from 1984!!! They were in Germany and they were both getting a blow job from prostitutes in a twin-bed hotel room. Hardly a point in time to be representative of anything....but yeah. In RdKopper land everything comes together and makes sense somehow. Ding dong! IT DOESN'T!

Pfffffffff.....RdKopper accusing people of misrepresenting fact muahahhaha :D What is the world coming to??

Throw in all the nasty remarks you want. It still doesn't validate any of your arguments.

- Yes! Only 2 hit albums in 35 years is limited. Sorry Pal... Everyone has their own definition of limited and if I use Bon Jovi as the benchmark, Def Leppard had limited success. How many albums did Bon Jovi sell after the 80's? Not including Crossroads, it's over 60 million.

Hysteria was an absolute brilliant album for its time but after that they waited too long. Adrenalize was absolute crap with singles like Let's Get Rocked and Make Love Like a Man. The only reason why any of them even charted in the top 40 was because of the huge success of their prior album. Not because they were actually good..... After that, they released only 4 studio albums in 22 years all of which tanked hard.Their legendary status is bigger than them.

- Okay, so you read the book too. It has to do with proof of me reading the book but it also has to do with the fact that Jon

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Originally Posted by Rdkopper (Post 1181855)

What a loser! You can't make fun of Bon Jovi and get away with it.

Best band ever.

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Originally Posted by trevrox (Post 1181871)

What a loser! You can't make fun of Bon Jovi and get away with it.

Best band ever.

Christ on a bike,how sensitive?:p

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Originally Posted by dcj28 (Post 1181872)

Christ on a bike,how sensitive?:p

What's Jon doing on a bike?