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Pauly 05-20-2015 12:59 PM

Bon Jovi with Phil X
 
Hi everyone,

I've been a massive Jovi fan since I was a kid and I first heard livin on a prayer when I was like 9 or something. I've followed them ever since. I've always been excited for new albums and tours, but when What about Now was coming out it didn't feel right to me, for the first time I wasn't interested, I don't know why, maybe we'd had too much Bon Jovi without any real breaks, I decided I wasn't going to see them on tour this time, and I wasn't excited for the album.
I bought the album and some stuff was ok but none of it got me going. Then Richie left. It all felt so wrong. I didn't watch much of the live stuff and wasn't that interested in following the tour.
But the other day a video popped up on YouTube, I'm not sure if it's from the last gig of the tour or what but I must say I was impressed, Jon vocally pulls it out of the bag and the band sound exciting for the first time in years. I don't know if it's coz it was the last gig or what, or if Phil X has ignited something, or if he's showing how sloppy Richie has got in recent years but, if this is an example of things to come then I say bring it on. What do you guys think?

This these days is phenomenal
https://m.youtube.com/watch?list=FLC...&v=taLeFuZ7wQU

So is always

And bed of roses

jovifan93 05-20-2015 01:46 PM

Sorry I have to disillusion you somewhat, but those are from the official web stream from MetLife Stadium from July 2013, in which they shamelessly auto tuned/pitch corrected Jon's vocals. Look for audience recordings from the same gig,and you'll see what I mean...

That's not to say that the band/Jon weren't still good in the summer of 2013, but it then rapidly went downhill towards the end of the year...

Walleris 05-20-2015 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jovifan93 (Post 1187991)
Sorry I have to disillusion you somewhat, but those are from the official web stream from MetLife Stadium from July 2013, in which they shamelessly auto tuned/pitch corrected Jon's vocals. Look for audience recordings from the same gig,and you'll see what I mean...

That's not to say that the band/Jon weren't still good in the summer of 2013, but it then rapidly went downhill towards the end of the year...

This.

Same goes for the Hyde Park footage.

I think the Cleveland 2013 stream is probably the last pro-shot performance where Jon sounded decent. It was worse than 2011, at least it sounded like the same guy. Even if the heavily doctored Metlife videos, you can hear Jon's voice changing at parts even if the notes are in key.

Matrix15 05-20-2015 07:04 PM

Having listened to some of the intimate shows recently jon sounds so much better when hes not over exerting and whining on ballads he can't sing anymore. Unfortunately that limits him to slow songs ie that attempt at welcome to wherever you are.

SuperBrad 05-20-2015 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jovifan93 (Post 1187991)
Sorry I have to disillusion you somewhat, but those are from the official web stream from MetLife Stadium from July 2013, in which they shamelessly auto tuned/pitch corrected Jon's vocals. Look for audience recordings from the same gig,and you'll see what I mean...

That's not to say that the band/Jon weren't still good in the summer of 2013, but it then rapidly went downhill towards the end of the year...

Omfg , so true .... Id never bothered to watched those clips till now . Embarissingly auto tuned . I dont think i will pay to see BJ again :(

rocknation 05-20-2015 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jovifan93 (Post 1187991)
That's not to say that the band/Jon weren't still good in the summer of 2013, but it then rapidly went downhill...

With Richie already gone, they should have cut their losses when Tico got sick and rescheduled for the following spring. But nooooo, Jon had a football team to finance...

Captain_jovi 05-20-2015 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by rocknation (Post 1188001)
With Richie already gone, they should have cut their losses when Tico got sick and rescheduled for the following spring. But nooooo, Jon had a football team to finance...

A super naive way to rationalize not cancelling the shows. A lot of people had plans, plane tickets, hotel rooms, band staff, crew. Any cancelling should have done BEFORE tickets were on sale.

ticos_stick 05-20-2015 11:28 PM

Phil X just doesn't cut it for me. He has enthusiasm but he lacks what it takes to take over Richie's spot. Jon is a shadow of his former self and Tico is a para-diddle away from the retirement home. In ideal world the band would call it quits but that won't happen.

It might be fun seeing just how big of a cluster f*ck the next tour will be though..

Fredrik 05-20-2015 11:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pauly (Post 1187989)
Hi everyone,
This these days is phenomenal
https://m.youtube.com/watch?list=FLC...&v=taLeFuZ7wQU

Phenomenal? Oh please…

efpg0708 05-21-2015 08:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pauly (Post 1187989)
Hi everyone,

I've been a massive Jovi fan since I was a kid and I first heard livin on a prayer when I was like 9 or something. I've followed them ever since. I've always been excited for new albums and tours, but when What about Now was coming out it didn't feel right to me, for the first time I wasn't interested, I don't know why, maybe we'd had too much Bon Jovi without any real breaks, I decided I wasn't going to see them on tour this time, and I wasn't excited for the album.
I bought the album and some stuff was ok but none of it got me going. Then Richie left. It all felt so wrong. I didn't watch much of the live stuff and wasn't that interested in following the tour.
But the other day a video popped up on YouTube, I'm not sure if it's from the last gig of the tour or what but I must say I was impressed, Jon vocally pulls it out of the bag and the band sound exciting for the first time in years. I don't know if it's coz it was the last gig or what, or if Phil X has ignited something, or if he's showing how sloppy Richie has got in recent years but, if this is an example of things to come then I say bring it on. What do you guys think?

This these days is phenomenal
https://m.youtube.com/watch?list=FLC...&v=taLeFuZ7wQU

So is always
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VGhpscsHOy8

And bed of roses
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Yygrtb-9RqU

Hi.

I was at both shows and both of them were very good. What pissed me off was that they were carbon copy of each other. There was no escuse for that, because they had a lot of songs to pull off the bag. Days before they played Undivided, This Ain't a Love Song, Living in Sin, I'm with you, Blood on Blood, I'll be There for You and some others in Europe.

About the vocals: Jon sounded somewhat decent during the show, however, it really hurts how much they autotuned the webstream.

I'm glad I got to see them a lot during The Circle Tour. Even though I don't love the album, the tour was very good, specially Europe. You could tell from the beggining of the tour that very nice moments were about to come: The acoustic version of Something For The Pain, Richie doing Homebound Train, songs from the first two albuns … Now take the WAN tour: the first setlists of the tour were a complete snoozfest and it got worse when Richie left.

bounce442 05-21-2015 09:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by efpg0708 (Post 1188011)
I'm glad I got to see them a lot during The Circle Tour. Even though I don't love the album, the tour was very good, specially Europe. You could tell from the beggining of the tour that very nice moments were about to come: The acoustic version of Something For The Pain, Richie doing Homebound Train, songs from the first two albuns … Now take the WAN tour: the first setlists of the tour were a complete snoozfest and it got worse when Richie left.

While I agree with you that The Circle tour was awesome... especially mixing it up with acoustic SFTP and Richie's Homebound Train. I disagree that the first few shows of the WAN tour were boring... yeah, they played a lot of the WAN stuff, but for the most part that's a good thing. I'd much rather hear Army of One, I'm With You, and What's Left of Me than Work, WWWB, and Lost Highway... especially on the WAN tour. Not to mention they played Wild is the Wind the first few shows! By the time I got to see them, they were only playing the weakest songs from WAN (with the exception of Water)... it was just the Circle Tour, but without any of the special moments list above.

Everyone complains about the first few shows and I just don't get it. Granted, I wasn't there, but on paper I'd take those shows in favor of the later American arena tour set lists.

BJipswich77 05-22-2015 12:27 AM

I think Phil X is great, he has real energy. Went to see BJ at Villa Park on their last tour and thought it would be a disappointing performance without Richie, but was left very pleased indeed.

efpg0708 05-22-2015 05:41 AM

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Originally Posted by bounce442 (Post 1188039)
While I agree with you that The Circle tour was awesome... especially mixing it up with acoustic SFTP and Richie's Homebound Train. I disagree that the first few shows of the WAN tour were boring... yeah, they played a lot of the WAN stuff, but for the most part that's a good thing. I'd much rather hear Army of One, I'm With You, and What's Left of Me than Work, WWWB, and Lost Highway... especially on the WAN tour. Not to mention they played Wild is the Wind the first few shows! By the time I got to see them, they were only playing the weakest songs from WAN (with the exception of Water)... it was just the Circle Tour, but without any of the special moments list above.

Everyone complains about the first few shows and I just don't get it. Granted, I wasn't there, but on paper I'd take those shows in favor of the later American arena tour set lists.

You Give Love a Bad Name
Lost Highway
Whole Lot of Leavin'
Because We Can
That's What the Water Made Me
Wild Is the Wind

It's My Life
What About Now
When We Were Beautiful
We Got It Goin' On
Keep the Faith
Amen (Acoustic)
The Fighter (Acoustic)
Someday I'll Be Saturday Night (Acoustic)
Army of One
We Weren't Born to Follow
What's Left of Me
Wanted Dead or Alive
Who Says You Can't Go Home
Captain Crash & the Beauty Queen From Mars
Bad Medicine
Encore:
In These Arms
Have a Nice Day

I Love This Town
Livin' on a Prayer

This show had no flow at all. Opening with Bad Name it's nice, but LH and WLOL back to back at spots like that loose the crowd right from the begining. Besides the songs in bold, I'd be bored to death if I got a setlist like that one.

This sequence:

What About Now
When We Were Beautiful
We Got It Goin' On
Keep the Faith
Amen (Acoustic)
The Fighter (Acoustic)
Someday I'll Be Saturday Night (Acoustic)
Army of One
We Weren't Born to Follow
What's Left of Me
Wanted Dead or Alive
Who Says You Can't Go Home
Captain Crash & the Beauty Queen From Mars

Besides Wanted and Keep the Faith, this is the most boring setlist ever.


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