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Tom_K 08-31-2014 01:20 PM

Book Billy Falcon for your house party
 
Billy Falcon has co-written many songs with the band and Jon, many of them have been hits so I was surprised to find this on his website:

Quote:

Given the state of the record business, which is kind of sad, I
believe house concerts are going be the best way I can get the music to people.
For anyone that doesn’t know what a house concert is,
its really just a fan sponsored show. It can be held anywhere you can fit
fifty people or more. We’ve done them in living rooms, foyers, bars ,coffee shops,
rec rooms, clubhouses, backyards, beaches, boats, theaters, American
legion, VFW’s, the moon…
People (fans, believers,) have a party, kind of like a Tupperware party
where they either invite or sell tickets to their friends and/or
neighbors. They can also open up to the public. It’s pretty simple, we
just come and do what we do.
http://www.billyfalcon.com/2014/02/w...house-concert/

Judging by the list of songs he's written, I thought the royalties alone would make for a nice living.

http://www.billyfalcon.com/2014/02/s...ichie-sambora/

Alphavictim 08-31-2014 02:33 PM

Some of the credits differ from the ones I'd seen before... didn't know he co-wrote I Could Make A Living..., also Richie isn't mentioned for Superman Tonight and Love's The Only Rule.

Also, starting with The Circle, his name's first.

Captain_jovi 08-31-2014 02:48 PM

Yeah he's always been credited for I can make a living. I wonder if he's listed first for The Circle because he wrote the bulk of them or it's just a difference in formatting. Strange to take out Richie's name though.

Iceman 08-31-2014 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom_K (Post 1181571)
Judging by the list of songs he's written, I thought the royalties alone would make for a nice living.

You only get royalties for the records sold or radioplays/streams. I don't think that Bon Jovi albums sell much anymore and even Crush that sold pretty good in 2000 won't sell now. And I can't see those post-2000 songs getting too much airplay either apart from Who Says, which Billy didn't write.

So, the royalties aren't exactly rolling in...

Ice

nikos greece 08-31-2014 04:07 PM

believe me its enough money to have a decent living only by this...it may be peanuts for jon and richie but its good money for a person with a low or average income

Captain_jovi 08-31-2014 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nikos greece (Post 1181581)
believe me its enough money to have a decent living only by this...it may be peanuts for jon and richie but its good money for a person with a low or average income

But like Ice said, NONE of those songs get airplay so it'd be based on sales. If he's getting a fraction of a dollar, I assume, for each sale it's not enough to live on.

rocknation 08-31-2014 05:45 PM

John Eddy once held a concert in a Jersey shore hotel conference room -- we were rowdy enough to distrupt three wedding receptions!

Rdkopper 08-31-2014 05:52 PM

The whole WWWB songwriting thing always baffled me. I once thought Billy wrote it and Jon just attached his name to it but I don't think that's the case at all. I think Billy is trying to take a little more credit or we gave Billy a little more credit based on his performance of it.

At 25:40, Jon stats that this is his most favorite song that him and Richie ever wrote.

Jon always states that they first come-up with a title, then the chorus is built around the title, and then the verses are built around the chorus.

If three guys are sitting in a room shooting ideas back and forth, it's hard to pinpoint who contributes to what and how credit should be split.

For example, lets say Jon comes up with a title, "We Were Young" and then Richies say's "When We Were Young" and then Billy Says "When We Were Beautiful".... Let's continue with that song-writing strategy throughout the rest of the song... Who should really get full credit?

Although there are stronger or key points to a song that matter more than others, it's really hard to say what they are, who is responsible for them, and more so, who should take full credit.

When it comes to Desmond, I think it's totally different. I think Jon sends him a draft of what he has and Desmond just fills in the blanks or changes the lyrics to rhyme or hook better. I think since the 90's, it's very rare for them to sit together to write like they once did. I say this because I would think the material should be so much stronger if they sat together to write verses Desmond just correcting Jon's homework.


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