[Falco]

Originally Posted by Walleris

I wish fans like you would realize that fans like us are in the minority when it comes to people that go to concerts.

No shit Sherlock. That's not the point. I've been to a lot of concerts and followed this band for a long time, though I don't post here much. Don't condescend to me.

Let's be honest, casual fans only want to hear Wanted, Bad Name, Livin' On A Prayer, the ballads and It's My Life. Everything else is filler to the casual fan, even singles from new albums. Like Sebastiaan said, then why not include a little bit of everything in that 'filler'? It's how they present it, example, where they place it in the set list. Take 'Fear' from Keep The Faith album. I personally love that song, but most people in the crowd wouldn't know it. So place it between a few more well known songs and whatever vibe was 'killed', they gain right back, while in the mean time pleasing the die hards. They could do that a few times in the set list, and everyone is happy.

It can be done, but only when they finally get away from the safe set lists.

[efpg0708]

Originally Posted by Falco

No shit Sherlock. That's not the point. I've been to a lot of concerts and followed this band for a long time, though I don't post here much. Don't condescend to me.

Let's be honest, casual fans only want to hear Wanted, Bad Name, Livin' On A Prayer, the ballads and It's My Life. Everything else is filler to the casual fan, even singles from new albums. Like Sebastiaan said, then why not include a little bit of everything in that 'filler'? It's how they present it, example, where they place it in the set list. Take 'Fear' from Keep The Faith album. I personally love that song, but most people in the crowd wouldn't know it. So place it between a few more well known songs and whatever vibe was 'killed', they gain right back, while in the mean time pleasing the die hards. They could do that a few times in the set list, and everyone is happy.

It can be done, but only when they finally get away from the safe set lists.

In the end, it comes down to having the balls to play it and laziness. Jon, most of the times, doesn't have the balls and/or is lazy. He's stated many times that he doesn't like to rehearse.

Remember back in TC Tour when they closed with Love's the Only Rule and it worked perfectly even though nobody besides us knew the song ? That's because Jon worked his ass off to sell that song to the audience.

If you go to a Paul McCartney concert, you'll get 10 songs that, if you're not a Beatles or Paul's diehard fan, you'll have no idea what's being played. Still, he plays it along with the hits and everybody's happy.

The majority of the audience doesn't know songs like Wild is The Wind and Undivided the same way they don't know Whole Lot of Leaving and Captain Crash. Yet, they get played every night. So, as recently, I think it more about laziness.

[Nige]

I personally don't get the love for DLS - for me it's nice to hear but I'm glad it was a bonus track.

Totally agree about them having some great b-sides though; especially the Bounce one which in many cases are better than the tracks that made the album. I absolutely love Postcards From The Wastelands, We Can Dance and Another Reason To Believe.

[Nige]

Originally Posted by Matrix15

Out of bounds anyone?!

Don't rate it at all....it deserved it's place on the boxset IMO.

[newikov]

Just checked the BMI songs database again.

There are so many unknown titles of Bon Jovi songs or written by Jon and Billy Falcon. Some of them are in the ASCAP database as well. Some not.

By the way, Billy Falcon co-authored a song called "I'm your man".

I guess some of these are WAN outtakes.

Closing Time
http://repertoire.bmi.com/title.asp?...erytype=WorkID

Hard to Make a Living
http://repertoire.bmi.com/title.asp?...erytype=WorkID

Hurt You Like That
http://repertoire.bmi.com/title.asp?...erytype=WorkID

Life Is Too Short
http://repertoire.bmi.com/title.asp?...erytype=WorkID

Little Faith
http://repertoire.bmi.com/title.asp?...erytype=WorkID

Live Forever
http://repertoire.bmi.com/title.asp?...erytype=WorkID

Recording Studio
http://repertoire.bmi.com/title.asp?...erytype=WorkID

Road To Regret
http://repertoire.bmi.com/title.asp?...erytype=WorkID

Saving Grace
http://repertoire.bmi.com/title.asp?...erytype=WorkID


Lovin' You's The Last Thing (written by Child and Falcon for Bon Jovi?)
http://repertoire.bmi.com/title.asp?...erytype=WorkID

[Lucas_Roli]

Originally Posted by Savvi

Stay would've been massive IMO. Especially as a follow up after It's My Life. Having said that I do like TYFLM.

Their mistakes go as far as the 80s...

Backdoor to Heaven

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THIS!! I still haven't figured it out why Backdoor To Heaven didn't make it on New Jersey. That song is filled with so much passion, it's one of the best vocal performances that Jon ever did IMO and Richie's backing vocals blend in perfectly, not to mention that high pitched guitar from beggining and after the last chorus..man oh man.. that guitar is screaming with passion and manages to give me an eargasm every freaking time.

[bonjovi90]

On a sidenote: Did anyone ever compile a list of all the B-sides / Outtakes that we've gotten hold of from Bon Jovi during their career?
A friend asked me about such a list and I never made one. Before I sit down and try to figure it out I was hoping someone might have something like this

[Old Joysey]

Originally Posted by Lucas_Roli

THIS!! I still haven't figured it out why Backdoor To Heaven didn't make it on New Jersey. That song is filled with so much passion, it's one of the best vocal performances that Jon ever did IMO and Richie's backing vocals blend in perfectly, not to mention that high pitched guitar from beggining and after the last chorus..man oh man.. that guitar is screaming with passion and manages to give me an eargasm every freaking time.

Hmmm... probably because a double entendre song like this one would have earned them a "parental advisory" sticker on the sleeve (did it exist back then?), tv/radio ban and the alienation of their youngest fanbase.

[Lucas_Roli]

Originally Posted by Old Joysey

Hmmm... probably because a double entendre song like this one would have earned them a "parental advisory" sticker on the sleeve (did it exist back then?), tv/radio ban and the alienation of their youngest fanbase.

LOL, I never thought of it that way until now. So that high pitched guitar is supposed to be a girls scream when she's letting someone through her backdoor?
I hope i won't get reported for this.

[Bounce7800]

Originally Posted by Lucas_Roli

LOL, I never thought of it that way until now. So that high pitched guitar is supposed to be a girls scream when she's letting someone through her backdoor?
I hope i won't get reported for this.

I'm glad it's not just me who just assumed the song was a long ode to bumming!