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Old 10-27-2014, 12:45 AM
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When It's My Life came about, Jon was still youthful enough to reach a new generation. Rock music was still being played on mainstream radio and a 38 year old Jon still had that Rock Star glow.

In 2009 / 2010 when Born To Follow was released, Jon thought he was going to repeat that magic by reaching out to a new generation 10 years later.

Unfortunately times had changed and there comes a point where a rock star, regardless of how good or bad the new music is, becomes dated.

What Jon was during the It's My Life period is where someone like Eminem is now in his career. 12 years from now when music continues to evolve, no one is going to want to hear a 52 year old guy rapping about current grown up events. He'll probably have that legendary live following but his new music will be nothing but fillers.

Jon and his celebrity have become 1. He has been famous now longer than he hasn't. His peers are other famous rich people and that's who he's comfortable being around. He hangs around people of power. Sports team owners and politicians. Jon wants to be the conservative rock star and write about the Power Of We. He's no longer interested in the number 1 radio hit or becoming a youthful rock star anymore.
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Old 10-27-2014, 09:46 AM
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What Jon was during the It's My Life period is where someone like Eminem is now in his career.
Spot on. I'd say Adam Levine and P!nk are also in the same territory at the moment.
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Old 10-27-2014, 09:09 PM
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When It's My Life came about, Jon was still youthful enough to reach a new generation. Rock music was still being played on mainstream radio and a 38 year old Jon still had that Rock Star glow.

In 2009 / 2010 when Born To Follow was released, Jon thought he was going to repeat that magic by reaching out to a new generation 10 years later.

Unfortunately times had changed and there comes a point where a rock star, regardless of how good or bad the new music is, becomes dated.

What Jon was during the It's My Life period is where someone like Eminem is now in his career. 12 years from now when music continues to evolve, no one is going to want to hear a 52 year old guy rapping about current grown up events. He'll probably have that legendary live following but his new music will be nothing but fillers.

Jon and his celebrity have become 1. He has been famous now longer than he hasn't. His peers are other famous rich people and that's who he's comfortable being around. He hangs around people of power. Sports team owners and politicians. Jon wants to be the conservative rock star and write about the Power Of We. He's no longer interested in the number 1 radio hit or becoming a youthful rock star anymore.
I mostly agree, bar the last sentence. If he wasn't reaching for airplay and a number 1 on radio he wouldn't shove one IML clone after another down our throats but focus on making songs he can relate to. And, judging by him giving up on new releases faster than they hit the stores (WAN), he doesn't stand behind his new stuff anymore.
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Old 10-28-2014, 05:58 AM
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Not true at all. Emenem keeps getting better, and somehow more popular. He is the biggest rap artist, ever. Why? Because he has never released a "bad" album. His music evolves continuously, both following trending music and staying true to himself. If Emenem released a commercial failure, he simply just wouldn't give a shit.

Bon Jovi stopped that after 1995 when staying true to himself became a commercial failure.
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Old 10-28-2014, 10:03 PM
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Not true at all. Emenem keeps getting better, and somehow more popular. He is the biggest rap artist, ever. Why? Because he has never released a "bad" album. His music evolves continuously, both following trending music and staying true to himself. If Emenem released a commercial failure, he simply just wouldn't give a shit.

Bon Jovi stopped that after 1995 when staying true to himself became a commercial failure.
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What do I want? No more songs about "getting up off your knees," or some shit like that. Jon has to realize he's not a politician, he's a rock star. This isn't a company, or a corporation, it's a rock n' roll band. Write, demo, record. It's that simple. No over-production is going to make the song's better or even good.

No more song's like We Weren't Born to Follow or What About Now. They've released WAY to many of those types of songs, too little fan fare. Don't they see what's going on? It's time to buckle down and write an album that they would want to hear. Jon's older, why not song's about how it's like to look into your past. Song's about change, about realizing that time has slipped away.

When I heard Not Running Anymore, I though that's where Jon was going with his lyrics. Than, we got What About Now and it was basically the same song's that he's written for the last decade. Nothing new or different, no change of tempo. There's come a time when you got to stop trying to remain relevant, and just write song's that mean more to you.

If they want critical acclaim, don't write cheesy, crappy songs like What About Now.
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Spot on. I'd say Adam Levine and P!nk are also in the same territory at the moment.
Yup but Pink is still do-able!
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Honestly after thinking about it I don't no if I want another record..... Would have to prove to me its all about the music, lyrics from the heart and a god damm different producer why not what's left to lose!
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