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Old 10-20-2005, 01:08 PM
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Just try singing TAALS chorus with Bells of Freedom.

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Old 10-20-2005, 01:17 PM
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Just try singing TAALS chorus with Bells of Freedom.

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I know, I noticed it for the first time. It's not the first time they used this sort of melody. Lonely At The Top and Hearts Braking Even have the same pattern at some point. And Bells Of Freedom is simply the worst.

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[Krycek mode on]It might be possible to sing it on the same melodies but they're very different songs and in no means a rip off of themselves. This Ain't A Love Song is a great quality song about the departure of your love and Bells Of Freedom is a top notch song about freedom. Very different! And imagine this: You've written top quality songs for more then 20 years and write another quality song on your latest album that's the best in years. Sure, it's possible that it sounds like some of your previous stuff, but does it matter? It's very, very great music, and that's what counts for me![Krycek mode off]

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I think I mentioned in an earlier thread that the first time I played the new album all the way through at home, my husband started singing TAALS to Bells of Freedom immediately. The similarities are quite obvious, especially in the chorus. My husband's comment was that at least they were stealing from themselves rather than from someone else

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Maybe that's why I never got into it - I never liked TAALS either. Plus both have cheeeeesy lyrics.
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All I know is I don't like it. It's a floater...it reeks...flush it.
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Maybe that's why I never got into it - I never liked TAALS either. Plus both have cheeeeesy lyrics.
When set next to this pile....by no stretch is TAALS, cheesy. It's an example of how they, in those days..would pander to the masses..but doing it with some class. So let's not start sullying a classic by naming it in the same sentence as this gag-fest.
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I don't know, unlike others, I think some of the lyrics from TD ARE cheesy, and TAALS definitely is among those. Granted, the lyrics are better written than BOF's, but even though they're less embarassing, they're still cheesy. What especially makes them seem cheesy is the vocal style of the song. Even for a ballad, it seems kinda... I don't know. Over-emphasized probably.
If I Was Your Mother also has cheesy lyrics, so does In These Arms, so does I'll Be There For You, but they don't come over that cheesy, thanks to the melody.

And while I'm at butchering everyone's favourites...

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Lonely At The Top and Hearts Braking Even have the same pattern at some point.
Actually, Hearts Breaking Even is a mediocre rewrite of Aerosmith's Cryin' (which is an awesome song - shame). Notice Desmond Child also co-wrote this one - was not really his finest hour I guess.
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And while I'm at butchering everyone's favourites...
Oh, make no mistake. TAALS is not one of my favorites. It DOES have cheese....but next to Balls..it doesn't.
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I noticed this too, but I know one thing:
- TAALS rules (probably my 4th favorite Bon Jovi ballad after the holy trinity of Never Say Goodbye, I'll Be There For You and Bed Of Roses)
- BOF sucks ass (one of the weakest songs in HAND)

There should be a rule that prohibits rock bands from using bells as an intro to their songs, unless you're AC/DC.
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I noticed this too, but I know one thing:
- TAALS rules (probably my 4th favorite Bon Jovi ballad after the holy trinity of Never Say Goodbye, I'll Be There For You and Bed Of Roses)
- BOF sucks ass (one of the weakest songs in HAND)
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Yeh same for me too. Actually I didnt notce this similarity until Ice pointed it out though. TAALS is by FAR the better song though
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