Bells Of Freedom = This Ain't A Love Song
 

Just try singing TAALS chorus with Bells of Freedom.

Ice

Aloha !

I know, I noticed it for the first time. It's not the first time they used this sort of melody. Lonely At The Top and Hearts Braking Even have the same pattern at some point. And Bells Of Freedom is simply the worst.

Anyway:

[Krycek mode on]It might be possible to sing it on the same melodies but they're very different songs and in no means a rip off of themselves. This Ain't A Love Song is a great quality song about the departure of your love and Bells Of Freedom is a top notch song about freedom. Very different! And imagine this: You've written top quality songs for more then 20 years and write another quality song on your latest album that's the best in years. Sure, it's possible that it sounds like some of your previous stuff, but does it matter? It's very, very great music, and that's what counts for me![Krycek mode off]

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan

I think I mentioned in an earlier thread that the first time I played the new album all the way through at home, my husband started singing TAALS to Bells of Freedom immediately. The similarities are quite obvious, especially in the chorus. My husband's comment was that at least they were stealing from themselves rather than from someone else :)

Kathleen

Maybe that's why I never got into it - I never liked TAALS either. Plus both have cheeeeesy lyrics.

All I know is I don't like it. It's a floater...it reeks...flush it.

When set next to this pile....by no stretch is TAALS, cheesy. It's an example of how they, in those days..would pander to the masses..but doing it with some class. So let's not start sullying a classic by naming it in the same sentence as this gag-fest.

I don't know, unlike others, I think some of the lyrics from TD ARE cheesy, and TAALS definitely is among those. Granted, the lyrics are better written than BOF's, but even though they're less embarassing, they're still cheesy. What especially makes them seem cheesy is the vocal style of the song. Even for a ballad, it seems kinda... I don't know. Over-emphasized probably.
If I Was Your Mother also has cheesy lyrics, so does In These Arms, so does I'll Be There For You, but they don't come over that cheesy, thanks to the melody.

And while I'm at butchering everyone's favourites...

Actually, Hearts Breaking Even is a mediocre rewrite of Aerosmith's Cryin' (which is an awesome song - shame). Notice Desmond Child also co-wrote this one - was not really his finest hour I guess.

Oh, make no mistake. TAALS is not one of my favorites. It DOES have cheese....but next to Balls..it doesn't.

I noticed this too, but I know one thing:
- TAALS rules (probably my 4th favorite Bon Jovi ballad after the holy trinity of Never Say Goodbye, I'll Be There For You and Bed Of Roses)
- BOF sucks ass (one of the weakest songs in HAND)

There should be a rule that prohibits rock bands from using bells as an intro to their songs, unless you're AC/DC.

Yeh same for me too. Actually I didnt notce this similarity until Ice pointed it out though. TAALS is by FAR the better song though

yes!!!!!!!!

And it works the other way around too! AMAZING!

Recyclable music. Bon Jovi are saving our planet.

Ponrauil

Much as I try it I can't hear this at all. Granted I'm quite tone-deaf but still. Perhaps it's because TAALS is my favourite Bon Jovi song and BoF is pretty disposable :p

Just sing TAALS chorus over BOF.

Ice

Doesn't work for me :S

You're not alone! I've tried singing one over the other, but it just doesn't seem to match at all. Must be something there as everyone else can hear it, but I can't.

Somebody with a decent voice oughta put a mp3 of that online. Or just mix the two choruses into each other, like the Nickelback thingie that is around online.

I'm going to try this when I get home.

They sound mildly similar

I can't really hear the similarity that much but a hint of it I guess, they sound by no means identical.

Only very slightly for me do I hear the similarties in the choruses.

I'm in the minority, but I love Bells Of Freedom.

deb

If the love that I got for you is gone
Ring them bells, ring them loud

If the river I cried ain’t that long
Let them ring, here and now

Then I’m wrong,
Just reach out

yeah I’m wrong,
and ring

this ain’t a love song
the Bells of Freedom

Is the Pope catholic?

Ponrauil

Does a bear shit in the woods?

Ice

Yeh, so do I. But then, I love them both.

Me too. TAALS is the best ballad Bon Jovi have done IMO and BOF is probably the best song on HAND.



Phil

Oh you have Balls.

He gave his balls freedom.

I like the song too by the way.

So that's what that smell is.

Ok. Well I will say that I'd much rather hear this one than Welcome To Wherever You Are.

The way songs like Bells have been saved in the past for me were the live performances...so we'll see.

I like Bells of Freedom too..

I can hear a bit of a similarity..

Are those rhetorical questions?

A lot of Bon Jovi songs have the same formula, I think, it doesn't make them any less terrific, if not PERFECT. They are at the very least catchy this way. BUT, back on topic.

I tried that, and yeah, it does sound SIMILAR, but, I REALLY LIKE both songs. I mean, TAALS is about (or could be interpreted as) a painful break up (just like Nicotene, the rest of These Days, & all of 7800 F), BOF...I always thought that was about Kerry's loosing to Bush, but, I don't know, that's just the spin I want to give it. I don't see how it's cheesy. BUT, anyway, they have almost the same amount of sylables to the meter, but, more importantly, the notes fluctuate the same. Maybe not the same notes (not that great with notes and music as such), but, they go up and down at the same time and compliment each other VERY nicely. :)

*sigh* Alright, let the flaming begin. I know I don't have enough posts here to make these types of statements, but, this is what I honestly think.

NICOTINE?????????????

WTF??

novocaine? lol

^^ Ah, crap! Thanks, dude. I was thinking "Novocaine" and "Last Cigarrette"...I guess this is what I get with the hybrid. XD

Same happens to Only Lonely and She Don't Know Me...

LAAAAAAAAAAAACK of Imagination...

Jeez...

at least it made me laugh lol

Except that they're in different key, have different melodies, other is in minor and other in major and Jon didn't write the other one. You must have mighty imagination to make those two the same.

Now, Story Of My Life and Last Cigarette are the same. Same chords, same key, same tempo, same melody. THAT's a lack of imagination.

Ice

yeh i noticed that about sOFL and LC still good songs

"Hearts Breaking Even" is far superior to any of the songs mentioned in the formula, musically. I think part of the comparison here lies in the fact that HBE, TAALS, and BOF are all written in 6/8 time. Or I am just drunk.

HBE has a different chord sequence. TAALS and BOF have exactly the same, in different keys though.

Ice

I am just now getting to replying to this. I do like TAALS. However, I like Bells of Freedom better. "Bells" actually was just "okay" for me at first.

It's after listening to the words closer that I realized how much this song means.

mellyjovi