[Rdkopper]

I'm surprised John would want to stay with Jon. It's not like they are churning out hit albums and songs. It seems like a lot of people give Shanks a lot blame for the more recent production style on Jovi albums. If I was Shanks, I just don't see the value of sticking around.

I know, money, but as a song-writer / producer he could probably cash in bigger by writing a song for Kelly Clarkson that could actually get some radio air-play.

Now that I look at his credentials, he does have other credits between albums but filling in for Richie would obviously take that away. I don't think any of these albums have been major hits either. I probably should have looked at this list before writing the above. With the exception of Miley Cyrus, Jon might be the second most relevant artist that Shanks has worked with in the past 10 years.

2005: Have a Nice Day by Bon Jovi
2005: Wildflower by Sheryl Crow
2005: I Am Me by Ashlee Simpson
2005: Somebody's Miracle by Liz Phair
2005: Greatest Hits: The Road Less Traveled by Melissa Etheridge (greatest hits)
2005: The Collection by Alanis Morissette (greatest hits)
2005: Pieces of a Dream by Anastacia
2005: The Real Thing by Bo Bice
2006: Fortuneteller's Melody by SHeDAISY
2006: Stand Still, Look Pretty by The Wreckers
2006: Beautiful World by Take That
2007: Taking Chances by Céline Dion
2007: Unbreakable by Backstreet Boys
2007: Greatest Hits by Sara Evans
2007: Lost Highway by Bon Jovi
2007: E² by Eros Ramazzotti
2008: Do You Know by Jessica Simpson
2008: The Circus by Take That
2009: Mr. Lucky by Chris Isaak
2009: The Time Of Our Lives by Miley Cyrus
2009: The Circle by Bon Jovi
2009: To Love Again by Alesha Dixon
2010: Fearless Love, by Melissa Etheridge
2010: Can't Be Tamed by Miley Cyrus
2010: Gravity by Westlife
2010: Sparks Fly by Miranda Cosgrove
2011: Untitled second studio album by Diana Vickers
2012: A Different Kind of Truth by Van Halen
2012: Josh Doyle by Josh Doyle
2012: Child of The Universe by Delta Goodrem
2013: What About Now by Bon Jovi
2013: In Spite of Everything by Jeff Campbell
2015: Burning Bridges by Bon Jovi

[Becky]

Fortuneteller's Melody by SHeDAISY is a great CD. It wasn't a big hit, but it did have some songs that charted. Just about anything by Melissa Etheridge is good, but I have no idea if she had any chart success. The Wreckers did pretty well, but they couldn't get along and broke up so they're basically a one-hit-wonder.

[rolo_tomachi]

Originally Posted by Rdkopper

I'm surprised John would want to stay with Jon. It's not like they are churning out hit albums and songs. It seems like a lot of people give Shanks a lot blame for the more recent production style on Jovi albums. If I was Shanks, I just don't see the value of sticking around.

I know, money, but as a song-writer / producer he could probably cash in bigger by writing a song for Kelly Clarkson that could actually get some radio air-play.

Now that I look at his credentials, he does have other credits between albums but filling in for Richie would obviously take that away. I don't think any of these albums have been major hits either. I probably should have looked at this list before writing the above. With the exception of Miley Cyrus, Jon might be the second most relevant artist that Shanks has worked with in the past 10 years.

2005: Have a Nice Day by Bon Jovi
2005: Wildflower by Sheryl Crow
2005: I Am Me by Ashlee Simpson
2005: Somebody's Miracle by Liz Phair
2005: Greatest Hits: The Road Less Traveled by Melissa Etheridge (greatest hits)
2005: The Collection by Alanis Morissette (greatest hits)
2005: Pieces of a Dream by Anastacia
2005: The Real Thing by Bo Bice
2006: Fortuneteller's Melody by SHeDAISY
2006: Stand Still, Look Pretty by The Wreckers
2006: Beautiful World by Take That
2007: Taking Chances by Céline Dion
2007: Unbreakable by Backstreet Boys
2007: Greatest Hits by Sara Evans
2007: Lost Highway by Bon Jovi
2007: E² by Eros Ramazzotti
2008: Do You Know by Jessica Simpson
2008: The Circus by Take That
2009: Mr. Lucky by Chris Isaak
2009: The Time Of Our Lives by Miley Cyrus
2009: The Circle by Bon Jovi
2009: To Love Again by Alesha Dixon
2010: Fearless Love, by Melissa Etheridge
2010: Can't Be Tamed by Miley Cyrus
2010: Gravity by Westlife
2010: Sparks Fly by Miranda Cosgrove
2011: Untitled second studio album by Diana Vickers
2012: A Different Kind of Truth by Van Halen
2012: Josh Doyle by Josh Doyle
2012: Child of The Universe by Delta Goodrem
2013: What About Now by Bon Jovi
2013: In Spite of Everything by Jeff Campbell
2015: Burning Bridges by Bon Jovi

This is the problem, John Shanks is about pop, not rock. We need a rock producer.

Brendan O'brien would be my choice.

[Rdkopper]

Originally Posted by rolo_tomachi

This is the problem, John Shanks is about pop, not rock. We need a rock producer.

Brendan O'brien would be my choice.

True! Is Brendan Obie's son?

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[rolo_tomachi]

Originally Posted by Rdkopper

True! Is Brendan Obie's son?

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NO.


Brendan O'brien


Brendan O'Brien (born June 23, 1960 in Atlanta, Georgia) is a record producer, mixer, engineer, and musician. He has worked with such artists as Pearl Jam, Stone Temple Pilots, Bruce Springsteen, Mastodon, AC/DC, Incubus, Rage Against the Machine, Red Hot Chili Peppers, Train, Audioslave, Bob Dylan, Neil Young, Kansas, Ernie Dale, Velvet Revolver, The Black Crowes, Aerosmith, Soundgarden, The Offspring, Korn, The Fray, Gaslight Anthem, The Killers, and My Chemical Romance.

To date, fourteen of the albums O'Brien has produced have reached #1 in the U.S. on the Billboard Hot 200 Charts.

[Bounce7800]

Originally Posted by rolo_tomachi

This is the problem, John Shanks is about pop, not rock. We need a rock producer.

Brendan O'brien would be my choice.

When will people except that Bon Jovi haven't been a rock band for many years? They are what they are and that's where Jon wants to be.

As for the original question, Shanks in the studio & Phil X on tour why change it? Shanks may be able to create a play some passable to decent solos in the studio but on tour you need those and the classics and Phil is the man for that whilst we are sans Richie.

[Walleris]

Originally Posted by Bounce7800

As for the original question, Shanks in the studio & Phil X on tour why change it? Shanks may be able to create a play some passable to decent solos in the studio but on tour you need those and the classics and Phil is the man for that whilst we are sans Richie.

Well, like I said, the authenticity is important sometimes.

A few years back I saw Roger Waters The Wall show. It was very nice overall, absolutely flawless both musically and visually. However, despite not being a Pink Floyd die-hard or anything, I remember how I couldn't get fully into Comfortably Numb, because it was one guy singing the chorus, another one playing the epic solo; and none of them were David Gilmour.

That's where this idea came to me. Richie can't be replaced, but Shanks is the closest thing that Jon chose as his partner. I imagine some recent songs are as much John's as they're Jon's. Obviously, for Wanted Dead Or Alive, it makes no difference who plays Richie's parts. But the new stuff? I'd take Shanks over Phil, despite the later being technically amazing.

Now if Phil was in studio with Jon making Bon Jovi records, it would be a completely different story. I'd love that, but that's not the case.

[rolo_tomachi]

Originally Posted by Bounce7800

When will people except that Bon Jovi haven't been a rock band for many years? They are what they are and that's where Jon wants to be.

So they need a producer as Brendan... because Jon is very lost. Just another producer would be able to save them from this "nightmare pop", that would be Bob Ezrin, a producer who seeks authenticity and not the fresh and cool sound, but Ezrin is very old.

If Jon wants to kill your brand of a diabetes overdose, so be it.

[rocknation]

After bassist/producer Bob Rock's tenure with Metallica -- no way.

[Alphavictim]

I've never been a huge fan of Brendan O'Brien, and his style is rather 90s alternative. If BJ didn't use him back then, why would they now? Bob Rock is more along the band's lines, and they're obviously not going back to him either.

Also, John Shanks writes a lot of stuff. Brendan O'Brien doesn't.